Wormholes

Yep. The number of cans is a bit ridiculous.

The design was that a single person couldn't nab all the cans, which is fine and all, but it falls apart when you realize your wingman can't help you do the hacking and is there solely to sit around and wait for you to finish.

Why not just unlock loot via the mini-game? Hackers still have to pick and choose what loot to go after, but once you unlock a can on the hack board, it stays in space for a bit. Hackers wouldn't be able to get all the loot due to limited coherence. Get rid of the stoopid grabby game.

I did a few c5 mags since the patch and they are still extremely profitable. I did them solo, but if I was in a group, I would just do those sites first and have the group move on to anoms while 1-2 hackers (or one guy and his alt) finish the cans.

I dislike the loot spew mechanic. Mostly because it is so damn difficult to pick a particular can until they have moved a lot, and then they are already starting to disintegrate.

Still, even though I could not grab everything, I got more out of a site than on average before Odyssey. Since the loot was always very very random I cannot say yet how much the average has gone up, but I feel it has gone up.

I know that most of the relic/data sites in w-space are worthless... basically all of the data sites anywhere and most of the relic sites in c1-4. That sucks, but has nothing to do with the new system, those sites were always worthless.

The ISK/hour however has definitely gone down because the hacking and travelling between cans takes so much longer. You need to put your hacker and your alt in a perfect position now to get the most loot, instead of just start the hacking from 6k away. I cannot complain though because the ISK/hour was insanely good before and is now merely very good.

Doing the sites felt a lot more exciting than before. The hacking game takes a lot of time and a bit of concentration, so you have to sit there exposed for quite a while. Watching for new sigs and hitting d-scan as often as possible while still progressing with the hacking. I haven't felt so thrilled while doing pve ever before.

As for the difficulty, I did the site with an unbonused hacker ship with T2 analyzer and 1x T2 rig and finished 80% of the cans on first try, nearly all the rest on second try. And I don't even feel I use the best approach yet. So if you constantly fail with good skills, it's not the game, it's you. Try harder.

Yea right.

When I can run into 3 restoration nodes within the first 5 clicks I dont see that as not trying hard enough. Just as dumb luck. And that's the annoying part. Too much of the minigame is dumb luck.

Why would you have wrist problems? were you somehow forced to click really fast?
I have a t2 analyzer, Hacking 5, and I am in my hacking Helios (I believe I have hacking Rigs)..... I cannot fail the games.I don't even know what to do with the helpful nodes they provide.

Your argument is invalid.

trying the hacking minigame for the first time i felt like i just arrived at a theoretical physics conference to find out that the main speaker is sarah palin.

Sadly, just about everything related to exploration in Odyssey stinks. Pretty major failure when this whole expansion was about exploration.

Its minesweepers in space!

Did a radar site. I won't do it again. Only a class 2. Even if I wanted to spend the time, I can grab 20% of the loot at most. These sites are only for four man gangs?

Let's say I was 6 jumps from home instead of 24, and it was a class 3, and I felt like getting my dedicated scanner... Can a frig grab all the loot? AB or MWD? Would a short range aoe tractor be too much to ask for?