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Avila Cracko

Likes received: 379

#21 - 2011-11-06 16:00:37 UTC

Pyre leFay wrote:

Avila Cracko wrote:

ok... i get it... we are stuck with it...
can we at least get some moving parts?
like radar dish??? or something like that???
or something moving that no other ship has... to make raven special and wow in some way???

If it was to having anything special like that, I would hope it was on the marauder to separate it as a t2 than just a different skin like the Phobos field projector doo-dads.

well raven is more iconic hull then phobos hull... thats why i wrote that... so give us some wow effect...

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

GRiD. 239
bornaa GRiD. Likes received: 239	#22 - 2011-11-06 17:05:17 UTC i support making raven wow-mobile... `[Yes, I'm an Amateur](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRa-69uBmIw&feature=relmfu)`

JC Anderson

RED ROSE THORN

Likes received: 1,234

#23 - 2011-11-06 19:33:12 UTC | Edited by: JC Anderson

It doesn't look the same.. :/

It looks a far cry better than the current raven. The thruster section was redesigned with harder lines and extended. All of the thicker/blockish lego components were refined and more streamlined.

Overall, the entire model simply looks MUCH better. There are countless small changes on it that combine for a fairly BIG DIFFERENCE.

The new model is REALLY nice looking.

Comparison
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2120/ravenl.jpg

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Severian Carnifex Likes received: 227	#24 - 2011-11-06 21:22:22 UTC Avila Cracko wrote: ok... i get it... we are stuck with it... can we at least get some moving parts? like radar dish??? or something like that??? or something moving that no other ship has... to make raven special and wow in some way??? +1 please CCP

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Selar Nox Likes received: 85	#25 - 2011-11-06 21:46:15 UTC Avila Cracko wrote: ok... i get it... we are stuck with it... can we at least get some moving parts? like radar dish??? or something like that??? or something moving that no other ship has... to make raven special and wow in some way??? yeah, nice idea, I like moving parts on ships :)

Kami Lincoln

Ministry of War

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 14

#26 - 2011-11-07 03:57:38 UTC | Edited by: Kami Lincoln

Selar Nox wrote:

Raven never was the most beautiful ship, but hell it's the RAVEN we're talking about!
Or do you really want them to model it after its namesake? (like the Scorpion... :/)

Also nice to see not all Ships loose their asymmetry (like it happend/s to Scorpion, Crow, ...) and therefore can keep their distinct look, even when the model gets upgraded (what I really appreciate).

I still believe EVE looses a bit of its distinctive look and feel with every ship made symmetrical and more "mainstream"...

Mainstream? We're talking about spaceships. The entire reason we play this game, and given that its one of the only missile only battleships it should be by popular demand Symmetrical. And the Scorpion was a very welcome change. The new one looks 100% better.

EDIT: I just compared the new and old ravens side by side, they are quite different... the new one does look allot better, I just forgot how much the old one.... sucked :( Though at this point, as long as they remove the grouped crap that serves no purpose on the starboard side, it can be asymmetrical. That is all.

Avila Cracko

Likes received: 379

#27 - 2011-11-07 12:07:37 UTC

Selar Nox wrote:

Avila Cracko wrote:

yeah, nice idea, I like moving parts on ships :)

i think all players like it... :)

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Selar Nox

Likes received: 85

#28 - 2011-11-07 12:55:33 UTC

Avila Cracko wrote:

Selar Nox wrote:

Avila Cracko wrote:

yeah, nice idea, I like moving parts on ships :)

i think all players like it... :)

Oh, I'm pretty sure there will be more than enough who will complain about it ("Who needs moving parts?!?! It will just cause more lag!!! FIX LAG godamit!!!" "It's not my Raven anymore, remove xy, or I'll unsub all my chars!!" ....)
And if it's just to have something to complain about...

Wonder when I became such pessimistic...

Gecko O'Bac

Deep Core Mining Inc.

Caldari State

Likes received: 25

#29 - 2011-11-07 13:22:58 UTC

Khanh'rhh wrote:

I don't like the design of the Raven at all. However, I think the redesign is exactly how it should be done.

You *still* get people whining that they preferred the old scorpion model, so it's wise not to change a ship that seemingly 90% of highsec characters fly.

*sigh* I have to agree. Personally I love the new Scorpion model and I'd very much like the raven to get the same treatment, since Scorpions aren't used as much as they used to...
BUT, lots of people whined about the heavy redesign and so with the latest redesigns they're keep much more faithful to the original, which is a shame.

Imho they should keep the asymmetry like there is in the ferox, rokh, drake or naga... Asymetric placement of bridges, command centers and details, but the overall shape simmetric. It's just common sense in structure design.

Also... Since we're not getting missile launcher "turrets" and reworked graphics, could we at least get something vaguely resembling a fixed missile launcher on new models? At least I won't have to pretend that the ship is firing missiles from its garbage expulsion port =/


Severian Carnifex Likes received: 227	#30 - 2011-11-07 14:14:32 UTC 1 i think that title of this thread should be "it looks THE SHAME!!" so please CCP... make something with raven so that it looks iconic...

Avila Cracko

Likes received: 379

#31 - 2011-11-07 16:54:25 UTC

Selar Nox wrote:

Avila Cracko wrote:

Selar Nox wrote:

Avila Cracko wrote:

yeah, nice idea, I like moving parts on ships :)

i think all players like it... :)

thats EVE "bitter vet" talk doing to ppl...

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

PIE Inc. Khimi Harar 825
Ciar Meara PIE Inc. Khimi Harar Likes received: 825	#32 - 2011-11-16 13:42:09 UTC New raven is awesome/cool sexy. Old raven was weird/fetish sexy. I love it eve-ness, sci-fi, feel. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]

Vihura Cor 74
Vihura Vihura Cor Likes received: 74	#33 - 2011-11-16 15:50:24 UTC love new raven

Hayden Altier

Kessel Syndicate

Likes received: 4

#34 - 2011-11-16 17:15:45 UTC | Edited by: Hayden Altier

Justin Cody wrote:

no it isn't. The model is updates simply awaiting retexturization. That is the new model. It has had some rear engine work done but that is about it...maybe some things were cleaned up.

But, But.... It's the same.... Roll

Dev: Hey players here, have a gold bar!

Player Base: Wow! do you believe how fucking heavy this dam thing is, you for real? You mean i have to carry this fucking thing?

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Cunane Jeran Likes received: 99	#35 - 2011-11-16 18:09:00 UTC The Raven is one of the oldest and most iconic ships in EvE. For 8 years its been there proudly on game boxes and posters, and it has done it with damn grace. Somethings don't need a radical makeover. This is certainly one of them.

War Firm 358
Justin Cody War Firm Likes received: 358	#36 - 2011-11-17 03:34:55 UTC ok the raven does look more badass now...step 2: making it actually badass

Goodgodyourface

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 44

#37 - 2011-11-17 06:01:25 UTC | Edited by: Goodgodyourface

Although I'm kind of hoping the Raven gets a full overhaul like the Scorpion did in the next (summer 2012) expansion, the fact that they went through the effort of updating the current model implies that won't happen.

The thing that bothers me the most with the Raven is how there's the core of a good ship in it, just waiting to be made:

http://i40.tinypic.com/oa7ocy.png

If they even made the port wing as large as the starboard wing, it would be an easy and awesome fix.

EDIT: See what I mean?

Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9
Xeo Benuse Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation Likes received: 9	#38 - 2011-11-17 06:05:54 UTC is this the one your talking about? http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/scorpion.jpg

Opertone

State War Academy

Caldari State

Likes received: 341

#39 - 2011-11-17 09:22:03 UTC | Edited by: Opertone

Raven is no different to me at all!

RAVEN RAGEEEEEEEEE
!!!

ninja: CCP save you time, Caldari whines are eternal, give symmerty

Just mirror the ships, clone left side from the right - no extra effort needed.

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again

Sense Amid Madness 48
Sam Bowein Sense Amid Madness Likes received: 48	#40 - 2011-11-17 10:06:29 UTC I'm really happy with the new model. It's the hull I see 90% of my time in Eve… I just hope they removed the toilet pipe at the front