EVE General Discussion

It's hard to give an impartial view, I'm in Test and I definitely have my bias. Also, a lot of the metagame stuff I hear about isn't confirmed, or even possible to confirm.

CFC has invaded Fountain. At the time Test had few reliable allies (basically Tribe and failcascade Raiden). Test had also undergone a bunch of leadership changes recently, which lead some to speculate (and insinuate) that Test was fail cascading. The prelude to this was the NC invasion of Delve/Querious with NC/PL and CFC basically thunderdoming against Test.

CFC invades, has a few strong first few days, although Test reveals allies in PL and NC.

Then BL/401k start attacking Goons in the North. Test is no longer fighting on two fronts, CFC is.

Then N3 Coalition (Nulli, Nexus, Scrap et al) officially deploy to Aridia this weekend.

The last 4 days have seen very little Fountain Sov change hands, and massive losses for CFC in the South and North despite downshipping to Caracals and Wolves from TFIs and Tengus. They still run some Tengu fleets, but they aren't as numerous as they first were.

Black Legion tonight captured a CFC station system in Tribute.

Also, unaffiliated but interested parties in Syndicate and Cloud Ring have taken to attacking CFC POSes there, as the CFC held numerous tech moons in those regions. Those parties are acting independent of Test and friends. Basically taking advantage of the fact the CFC can't be everywhere all the time.

And again, yes I have a bias. I am in Test. I do not like the CFC. But I'd like to think I could admit if we were losing badly, and in our communications, fleets, formups etc, that certainly isn't the mood. It feels like every day the Test/NC/N3/BL side is getting better and better results.

What no one is really talking about, is that the CFC is being invaded in Tribute while they are trying to invade Fountain. There are multiple fronts to this war, not all in Fountain, and not all involving Test. Although it seems NC/N3 like to fly with BL and 401k.

It's a sov hellgrind, not unlike a "who can avoid killing themselves after several hours of shooting and repping (different !) sov structures all the time" competition.


Well I've heard that now we're supposed to blueball early and often :condi:.

Space will be full of cloaked ships passing one another to shoot or drop SBUs or not-so-cloaked ships trying to rep POS and whatnot.

Incidentally, I see that no one has thanked the CFC for providing this massive boost to the mining community

Take Mittens. Take Kugu. Take EN24. Mix them in a blender. Take a pinch of salt. Discard that salt. Put all remaining salt in. Then you have something vaguely reliable.

The best you can do is read both sides and deduct form yourself. The fact is that anyone who is partial, is probably not involved and by default, not going to have the good info you want.

Come on down and party with us, find out for yourself.

Sorry, I had my fill of null sec intrigue and battles when I was in FCON (ugh, I will always have that shameful mark) fighting against the russians and PL in Pure Blind, as NC quietly folded its tent.

When I had 6 PL supercaps on a lossmail for my Scimitar, I pretty much knew that the people that would consider that a "good fight" are the same people who enjoy ramming their heads into brick walls at full speed.

I am just an interested bystander in this current war. I still find the machinations of the null sec cartels important, because ultimately what happens in null sec in game and to the null sec cartel income streams profoundly affects the future direction of game mechanic changes.

Frankly, as much as I dislike the goons, I am shocked there is even a chance they would lose this war. I never expected them to initiate a war unless they had it sewn up politically before the first shot was fired. Based on that I figured they would always be the champion of static, predictable income sources (moon goo). I never figured their income streams could be taken away from them. If the goons lose this war, and lose a large percentage territory and income streams, you can bet that their CSM reps will start applying serious pressure to CCP to change the game mechanics to something that weakens the power of holding null sec territory and moons. But until goons lose significant income streams, I know that the concept of ring-mining is a canard.

You mean like they've been doing for years?

You can watch the progress of the war yourself on mad ani's twitch feed. He usually has good intel and video feed on live battles in progress, and you can follow-up by looking on eve-kill and dotlan and seeing what sov changes occured and what was lost inb those systems and make your own judgements.

Yeah but before they were advocating it ironically.

~hipster~

This is all you need to know about the war (thanks to my bro in TEST for giving me this):

http://i.imgur.com/GdBi8Z6.gif