Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Another clarification - I wasn't suggesting that ALL fleet members should share results but only consider that information to be part of the fleet booster role.

So
Squad Commander would only see their squad results
Wing Commander would see the Wing results
FC would see the Fleet results

You would need to be on-grid and within range of the booster's survey scanner for this to work.

I would think this would maximize code reuse - I could be wrong thou.

improvements:
show which asteroids are locked/being harvested.

add a column with "volume" since "quantity" means we have to faff around doing the math to figure things out, which is tedious.

add a range bonus to the foreman link that adds laser range, that way your laser range is always equal to your scanner. better meta/t2 range bonus allows for "forward planning" if you have asteroids outside of your range. also, allow us to change the range if we want to use a t2 scanner while not having the results cluttered by out of range asteroids.

multiplayer:
as for using it in a multiplayer setting, well i don't see how. it's only really useful to a miner nobody else needs to know. unless you can display the scanner results on some one else's screen so you could scan from an orca and then have the results pop up on the miner's screens then i don't see it being useful in a multiplayer setting at all.

bump

How about using the survey as a "target painter" and the painted asteroid gives a % bonus to the lasers on it.

otherwise some information like remaining ore volume, (not units), time until depletion when mined by you (compared to your lasers). Number of lasers or ships targeting it.... these kind of information would be really helpful.

Also, can you make asteroids "explode" (or implode) once depleted? or make they shrink based on how much ore is left on them?

Might be nice if survey scanners provided benefits other than just raw information, like slightly reduced capacitor cost to ships linked in with them on the grounds that they can more efficiently mine the ore because of said scanners pinpointing where the highest concentrations in an asteroid are. There shouldn't be any sort of cycle time or yield bonus of course, but things like that or improved lock speeds on surveyed asteroids could make things interesting.

The idea of grav/ice sites only being scannable with a survey scanner is a really good idea.

I like the idea of knowing who is locked on what asteroid. Its a PITA when you find out that someone else is draining it and you waste a cycle. Another thing that would be nice is if you could have a "system" scanner.

I typically spend an hour or so in hisec just looking for a belt that has enough ore for a mining op. I send someone out with with a raptor and a spreadsheet to rate each belt in a system to see if they are worth mining. Many times they have to jump to 2 or 3 other systems to find a good enough belt. Big waste of time. If you could pop in system, click "scan" and then get a quantity of ore/belt for that system that would be great. Maybe make it a Orca/Roq only scanner for the CPU required to use it? You could then just warp to the belt with the whole crew.

ohhhh bump

CCP, this is really going to be happening.
You have a ETA on it, or is this one of those changes on a low priority and will be (if it will be) added to the game?

I do and don't like the idea of a system wide scan and the ability of the survey scanner to pinpoint ice fields

So here is the counter arguement

If you are at war or in low/null with a mining fleet then any fleet looking for an easy target would be able to do the same and simple warp to the asteriod belt with the largest quantity of roids in it. Chances are that is where you are going to be too, if not right away then it is a good possibility that the largest belt would be next on the list. All they would have to do is just sit and wait.

Right now, if a WT comes on grid you at least have a chance to dock up. With a system-wide mechanic I could envision this being close to 0 chance and subtantial slaughters as you wouldn't even need to scout the belts anymore.

So +1 for making mining easier for fleets, but -1 for increase in number of industrial pops.

Counter arguement #2

You find yourself a nice ice belt and merrily go along your business when a roving fleet shows up and mines the heck of the place before you get 2 rettys full for your own POS. In fact there is a Russian fleet that regularly shows up at the local belt within about an hour of it spawning. They generally have a curcuit they fly and mine out everything they can find.

If you make it so that these belts can only be found using a special survey scanner and that the scanner can only be fitted to an Orca / Roqual - then individual pilots that only need enough to power a small or medium POS will get locked out unless you plan on keeping an Orca in system for the sole purpose of doing one scan to pinpoint the location and then dock that up to go get your retty.

I agree that the galv sites are too easy to find at the moment but the cost / benefit of solving that by only allowing an Orca class ship able to find them - is a bit too much the opposite direction. Locks out anyone that doesn't have 1B to spare to purchase and fit out an Orca.

So again +1 for solving the galv sites being too easy to find but -1 for locking out everyone who can't afford an Orca.

Very good ideas in this thread.....love the idea of tagging roids and tracking who is on what rock.