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relic site loot

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xiline anahata
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-12 10:02:12 UTC
after odyssey was applied i feel like all relic/data sites got a serious hisec boost in loot.
some corps reported as high as 100 million/site in hisec.
now i've done a lot of them (about 10-15)last night and today and total loot worth is 2 million :|

anybody else experienced this ?
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#2 - 2013-06-12 10:09:38 UTC
I think relic sites got a massive nerf day or two after odyssey release, in null sec at least.
Ylariana
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-12 10:37:27 UTC
I'm still seeing the same drops form these sites, but the value of the items is bombing due to massive over-supply due to laughably low requirements to access the loot.

When you compare the Exploration income against missions that could be completed with a similar level of skillpoints trained, the difference is/was Massive.

But now, since ever man and his dog AND the dogs puppies are out there in T1 explo frigates, the market value of the drops has dived. Entirely predictable of course.......
xiline anahata
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-06-12 10:59:13 UTC
Quote:
Entirely predictable of course.......


Yes i can see that. but why the damn boost day1 ?
it's unfair

like a bank taking money from ppl with 1000% interest and after one month interest drops to 4%

~
Paul Leonard Kersey
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-06-15 20:33:03 UTC
Whine moar, that'll help Roll
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-06-15 21:18:09 UTC
Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:
Whine moar, that'll help Roll

Know what would really help? You stop posting troll replies here in Missions and Complexes sub-forum. Either that or just go back to General Discussion sub-forum.


DMC
Paul Leonard Kersey
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-06-15 21:32:47 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:
Whine moar, that'll help Roll

Know what would really help? You stop posting troll replies here in Missions and Complexes sub-forum. Either that or just go back to General Discussion sub-forum.


DMC


Ahh snowflake doesn't like my post Sad
You going to take your ball and go home?

The sites have the same loot today as on day 1, random is random ect..
LUCIA28
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-06-30 05:57:53 UTC
Shocked First time I hit a relic site was freaking cool. hell what suck it took me like 5 hours to find 2 not to mention the poor skills need it to compete with everyone else's. Roll
Iri'yana
Corvus Technologies
#9 - 2013-06-30 06:30:20 UTC
xiline anahata wrote:
after odyssey was applied i feel like all relic/data sites got a serious hisec boost in loot.
some corps reported as high as 100 million/site in hisec.
now i've done a lot of them (about 10-15)last night and today and total loot worth is 2 million :|

anybody else experienced this ?


I too once had a relic site with a potential loot value above the 100 million ISK mark due to a small Sansha control tower.But that is one hell of a lucky find and far from the norm. Can happen, but the chance is excedingly slim and it needs some POS related BPC for it to happen.
Cthulhu Fthagn
Yaxchilan
#10 - 2013-06-30 08:48:05 UTC
Relic sites got nerfed in one of the latest two patches.
I don't care what CCP says... I do dozens of them everyday and a certain item's drop numbers are waaaay down than they used to be (It's very very apparent).
Fine by me though.. income is still okish and the experience is funnish.

Data sites on the other hand, absolutely worthless.
Yeah CCP has mentioned they're going to fix the loot tables but untl then they are a waste of a sig.


Lipbite
Express Hauler
#11 - 2013-06-30 12:39:39 UTC
xiline anahata wrote:
Yes i can see that. but why the damn boost day1 ?
it's unfair


To create a hype to attract new players with "get rich quickly" scheme and demonstrate new "expansion" is interesting to substantial amount of player base (~1.5% as I estimated). But it's not: whatever low-high-null region I try with lvl4-5 skills and 120mil worth ship - I cannot get close to income from L4s missions (not to mention incursions).

Also I cannot imagine mini-game more dull than moving bubbles on black screen (a.k.a. "scanning"). One must be very specific person to not to be bored to death with it in 30 minutes.
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
The Whale Hunters Association
#12 - 2013-06-30 12:55:47 UTC
0.0 relic sites are still massivly good if you get the ones with intact armor plates or cap consoles
Cthulhu Fthagn
Yaxchilan
#13 - 2013-06-30 13:09:02 UTC
Lilan Kahn wrote:
0.0 relic sites are still massivly good if you get the ones with intact armor plates or cap consoles


None of the two in my roaming grounds.
Cryo Kool
Tax Holiday
#14 - 2013-07-03 08:38:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Cryo Kool
Lipbite wrote:

Also I cannot imagine mini-game more dull than moving bubbles on black screen (a.k.a. "scanning"). One must be very specific person to not to be bored to death with it in 30 minutes.


You move bubbles on a black screen to find a place that contains scattered bubbles. You race to those bubbles to start a game of popping bubble wrap. Win the bubble wrap game to initiate a game of click the bubbles before they disappear. If you are lucky you get something nice in one of those bubbles.
anishamora
Atelierele Grivita
#15 - 2013-07-03 11:43:32 UTC
xiline anahata wrote:
Quote:
Entirely predictable of course.......


Yes i can see that. but why the damn boost day1 ?
it's unfair

like a bank taking money from ppl with 1000% interest and after one month interest drops to 4%

~


There was no boost, it's all about the value that the items had immediatly post-odyssey (day1) and afterwards when everyone and their moms started dumping the same loot on the market. There was no real increase in the demand for those products, thus the prices sank like titanic.

Really, if you don't realise that the value of the loot (and thus isk/hour) is tightly connected to market prices, you're playing the wrong game.
XXSketchxx
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#16 - 2013-07-03 12:20:51 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:
Whine moar, that'll help Roll

Know what would really help? You stop posting troll replies here in Missions and Complexes sub-forum. Either that or just go back to General Discussion sub-forum.


DMC



OH NO THE SELF APPOINTED POLICE IS HERE

get off your high horse bud
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-07-03 12:51:46 UTC
XXSketchxx wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:
Whine moar, that'll help Roll

Know what would really help? You stop posting troll replies here in Missions and Complexes sub-forum. Either that or just go back to General Discussion sub-forum.

DMC


OH NO THE SELF APPOINTED POLICE IS HERE

get off your high horse bud


you need to be more stealthy when alt posting...

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

XXSketchxx
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#18 - 2013-07-03 14:16:40 UTC
Why?

Also I'm pretty sure my main is banned from posting.

And anyone that cares knows who my main is.
xiline anahata
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-07-04 13:51:26 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
xiline anahata wrote:
Yes i can see that. but why the damn boost day1 ?
it's unfair


To create a hype to attract new players with "get rich quickly" scheme and demonstrate new "expansion" is interesting to substantial amount of player base (~1.5% as I estimated). But it's not: whatever low-high-null region I try with lvl4-5 skills and 120mil worth ship - I cannot get close to income from L4s missions (not to mention incursions).

Also I cannot imagine mini-game more dull than moving bubbles on black screen (a.k.a. "scanning"). One must be very specific person to not to be bored to death with it in 30 minutes.


agree.
xiline anahata
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-07-04 13:57:01 UTC
anishamora wrote:
xiline anahata wrote:
Quote:
Entirely predictable of course.......


Yes i can see that. but why the damn boost day1 ?
it's unfair

like a bank taking money from ppl with 1000% interest and after one month interest drops to 4%

~


There was no boost, it's all about the value that the items had immediatly post-odyssey (day1) and afterwards when everyone and their moms started dumping the same loot on the market. There was no real increase in the demand for those products, thus the prices sank like titanic.

Really, if you don't realise that the value of the loot (and thus isk/hour) is tightly connected to market prices, you're playing the wrong game.


maybe you just happened to be in a low pop or insanely farmed area on and after launch. because where i was scanning, data/relic sites popped like crazy. and the loot was not the same from a quantity and abundance standpoint. value-wise, i really DID make 40mil isk in one relic site in hisec which previously was unheard of as far as mag sites used to be. let's stay on topic here.

now, u get an average 3 mil per site with some totally - i mean totally - empty . scanned with cargoscanner. emtpy cans.
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