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Cults of EVE or why Goons should be pitied not hated

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Zelda Wei
New Horizon Trade Exchange
#1 - 2013-06-15 12:55:15 UTC

  1. The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment.
  2. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
  3. The group is preoccupied with making money.
  4. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
  5. Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
  6. The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth).
  7. The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).
  8. The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society.
  9. The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations).
  10. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities).
  11. The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them.
  12. Members' subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group.
  13. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group.
  14. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-06-15 12:59:30 UTC
I like to start out every spring day with a good batch of cookies. A batch of cookies can be a way to bring the whole home together, both inside and out.

Here's my recipe, I hope you like it.


Ingredients

Original recipe makes 3 dozen Change Servings

1/2 cup shortening

1/2 cup crunchy peanut butter

1/2 cup white sugar

1/2 cup packed brown sugar

1 egg

1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour

3/4 teaspoon baking soda

1/2 teaspoon baking powder

1/4 teaspoon salt

Cream together the shortening, peanut butter and sugars. Beat in egg. Combine the flour, baking soda, baking powder and salt; gradually stir into the peanut butter mixture. Cover and refrigerate dough for at least one hour.

Preheat oven to 375 degrees F (190 degrees C). Make small balls of dough. Flatten with fork dipped in flour to form cross-wise pattern.

Bake for 10-12 minutes in the preheated oven, or until just set. Remove from baking sheets to cool on wire racks.

It's a good thing.
Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-06-15 13:00:24 UTC
you could also have used this one


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections and voter suppression


already dead, just haven´t fallen over yet....
BORRIS DEMONTFORD
THE OFFENDERS
#4 - 2013-06-15 13:04:31 UTC  |  Edited by: BORRIS DEMONTFORD
Zelda Wei wrote:

  1. The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment.
  2. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
  3. The group is preoccupied with making money.
  4. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
  5. Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
  6. The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth).
  7. The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).
  8. The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society.
  9. The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations).
  10. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities).
  11. The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them.
  12. Members' subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group.
  13. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group.
  14. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.



Seems very similar to Scientology Lol

edit: I just read the other thread after posting, spooky eh
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-06-15 13:07:11 UTC
so we're a fascist cult

heh

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-06-15 13:26:11 UTC
Andski wrote:
so we're a fascist cult

heh


i always think of goons as Ayn Rand lovin Libertarians




already dead, just haven´t fallen over yet....
Khemax
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-06-15 13:36:04 UTC
Brainless Bimbo wrote:
Andski wrote:
so we're a fascist cult

heh


i always think of goons as Ayn Rand lovin Libertarians


I always think of goons as self obsessed idiots especially Mitani...that idiot is a legend in his own mind
Capt Tenguru10
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-06-15 13:40:16 UTC
Who cares really

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#9 - 2013-06-15 13:40:40 UTC
Andski wrote:
so we're a fascist cult

heh


I'd go with the Mongol Horde if I had to describe Goonswarm.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-06-15 13:43:38 UTC
Brainless Bimbo wrote:
Andski wrote:
so we're a fascist cult

heh


i always think of goons as Ayn Rand lovin Libertarians



pretty sure Ayn Rand wasn't into suicide.

Muslim fundamentalists is a better comparison.

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Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-06-15 13:45:19 UTC
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#12 - 2013-06-15 13:48:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Sentamon wrote:
Brainless Bimbo wrote:
Andski wrote:
so we're a fascist cult

heh


i always think of goons as Ayn Rand lovin Libertarians



pretty sure Ayn Rand wasn't into suicide.

Muslim fundamentalists is a better comparison.


Nope, the fundies want to change the entire game thereby ruining it for everybody but them. Goonswarm just want to ruin your game, not the game.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-06-15 13:50:02 UTC
They play Internet spaceships and they have fun. Pity is for the people who slog endlessly in this game of pixels.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-06-15 13:52:35 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Nope, the fundies want to change the entire game thereby ruining it for everybody but them. Goonswarm just want to ruin your game, not the game.


They better try harder to get past the mild amusement and pity stage then.

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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-06-15 14:02:15 UTC
Zelda Wei wrote:

  1. The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment.
  2. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
  3. The group is preoccupied with making money.
  4. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
  5. Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
  6. The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth).
  7. The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).
  8. The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society.
  9. The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations).
  10. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities).
  11. The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them.
  12. Members' subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group.
  13. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group.
  14. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.


Well, some points seem to be correct for most alliances. Other points might reflect your picture of some alliances you clearly never were part of.

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-06-15 14:15:29 UTC
Its an internet spaceship game...

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Ryu Ibarazaki
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-06-15 14:16:09 UTC
OP just described Thanksgiving Dinner at my parent's house.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-06-15 14:16:15 UTC
Brainless Bimbo wrote:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections and voter suppression


Nah man, he said "Why Goons should be pitied" not "Why the American people need to wake up and smell the coffee".

Dodixie > Hek
Kara Vix
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-06-15 14:17:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Kara Vix
I thought I had too much time on my hands, how ever do you people keep coming up with this tripe. Roll
space submarine
#20 - 2013-06-15 14:24:52 UTC
Khemax wrote:
Brainless Bimbo wrote:
Andski wrote:
so we're a fascist cult

heh


i always think of goons as Ayn Rand lovin Libertarians


I always think of goons as self obsessed idiots especially Mitani...that idiot is a legend in his own mind


I think many goons come from broken homes so he is like their space dads. That's my working theory at least to explain the blind adoration and devotion.
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