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The Transwarp Hub -- A Carebear entry to w-space.

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Herbinator d'Arcadie
Arkadian Knight
#1 - 2013-06-14 17:12:59 UTC
The transwarp hub was introduced in Star Trek Voyager (final episodes). A variation of the theme could be used to entice Carebears out of high-sec.

No amount of "reward" will entice many Carebears into low-sec or null-sec. The space is claimed by long established corporations. This is of little interest to many Carebears -- including myself.

Carebears do like to venture into w-space. The appeal is to explore yet avoid the T3s scattered throughout. The problem is that it is difficult to endure in w-space.

The opening up of w-space can be achieved through a variation of the Transwarp Hub concept. It would:

1) allow entry to any w-space system. This gives repeatability and easier habitability.

2) be restricted to only trusted citizens (standing of 6.0 or higher). This prevents all those dratted alts from usurping the concept. The objective is to entice Carebears to explore more freely (and encounter real hostiles more often).

3) be one-way. It is wormhole exploration, after all.

High-sec Carebear types are largely "loner" characters. They (we) resist joining the larger established groups. Hubs would expand the play of the loners, increase their interaction with broader elements of EVE, and put more playable sand in the sandbox. I'd be all over this.

"Block" pigs. Refuse to fly with them.

Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#2 - 2013-06-14 17:36:00 UTC
No. Terrible idea.
Gareth Burns
GeoCorp.
The Initiative.
#3 - 2013-06-14 17:37:09 UTC
I love the idea of getting more Carebears out into WH Space. However; I don't think a one way trip to a wormhole is going to entice to may of them to come on in.

From what I gather basically you're suggesting something close to a jump gate only accessible to characters with high standing to a particular NPC corp. This jump gate would basically throw you into a random Class one or two wormhole and you would have to find your own way out.

I can tell you if we (TDSIN) saw a lone ship hanging out in WH space you would be podded by a T3 faster they you could say frozen corpse. Which most WH space corporations are capable of the same destruction and most of us don't really care about ransoms our newbies.


Like I said, LOVE the idea of bringing Carebears out to WH space (not just to pod them, I actually like Carebears). But this idea would have to be tweaked a little I think.

Maybe allowing well-established WH corporations to place jump-bridges back to K space.

Or something even more enticing, asteroid belts. C-bears love asteroid belts!

Noblesse Oblige ► Gareth Burns

Jonas Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-06-14 17:46:08 UTC
now if it sent you to some unknown space .... like the kind of space mentioned at fanfest ones without POS capability..
just a new wild space that could be vast with new content maybe...

'Tech3 ships need to be put down, like a rabid dog drooling everywhere in the house, they are out of line' CCP Ytterbium Nerf missile range into place where is the TD missile change?  ..projectiles should use capacitor. ABC's should be T2 HABC and nerf web strength its still too high

Samuel Woodbury
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-06-14 17:55:27 UTC
Can we just change the undock button to teleport to WH space instead? id be fun!!
Herbinator d'Arcadie
Arkadian Knight
#6 - 2013-06-14 19:27:52 UTC
Gareth Burns wrote:
I love the idea of getting more Carebears out into WH Space. ...
From what I gather basically you're suggesting something close to a jump gate only accessible to characters with high standing to a particular NPC corp. This jump gate would basically throw you into a random Class one or two wormhole and you would have to find your own way out.

Yes and No. The wormhole would not be restricted to 1 or 2. It could be random but if one knew the destination you could specify it. The "Standing" restriction is not to an NPC corp but to the race (ex Gallente).

Gareth Burns wrote:
Or something even more enticing, asteroid belts. C-bears love asteroid belts!

Yes. Yes we do. Big smile
Wormhole mining is by far my favorite activity. I love going into the unknown. Reconnoitering the area. Watching the inhabitants and their behaviors. Mining -- most anything else is beyond the simple Carebear. I'd like to set up shop for while. Wouldn't care if the wormhole collapsed if I could eventually [escape and] return.

Gareth Burns wrote:
Maybe allowing well-established WH corporations to place jump-bridges back to K space.

No, no. It is for Carebears, not Wormholers.

Gareth Burns wrote:
Like I said, LOVE the idea of bringing Carebears out to WH space (not just to pod them, I actually like Carebears). But this idea would have to be tweaked a little I think.

Tweak away.
I'm not so interested in taking on gate campers and roving fleets. They represent organizations I could care less about. The idea of snaring a wanton-killer wormholer as a progression step is quite appealing to me. I lose most of my ships by being outsmarted in a wormhole. We high-sec'rs die by being caught. A little retribution would be possible if we could familiarize ourselves better with a particular wormhole.

Carebears with higher standings would be a better kill for you than a newbie in a Venture or Imicus? Wouldn't they?

"Block" pigs. Refuse to fly with them.

Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2013-06-14 21:43:43 UTC
So, basically, remove every single shred of the logistical challenge of WH space?
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#8 - 2013-06-14 21:51:44 UTC
I was with you right up until you said 'transwarp hub' and 'startrek voyager'....

No eve is supposed to be challenging.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Herbinator d'Arcadie
Arkadian Knight
#9 - 2013-06-14 23:07:38 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
So, basically, remove every single shred of the logistical challenge of WH space?

Oh, my, that IS a good point. Wasn't really thinking of it from the wormholer's perspective.

W-folk have been around for a long time. Must have high civilization standings. Would make w-EVE too easy for supply and recruitment.

"Block" pigs. Refuse to fly with them.

Cyrus Alabel
Azure Wrath
#10 - 2013-06-14 23:45:12 UTC
Samuel Woodbury wrote:
Can we just change the undock button to teleport to WH space instead? id be fun!!


If Jita 4 undock led to C6 with sleepers on the jump-in, one way...that could be funny.
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-06-15 00:03:14 UTC
Herbinator d'Arcadie wrote:
No amount of "reward" will entice many Carebears into low-sec or null-sec.

Your suggestion does nothing to change that. If they aren't enticed by high sec wormholes, they won't be enticed by any other way into the same kind of space.

To entice them, CCP would need to find some way to make a gentle transition between system with Concord protection and systems without. Then you just need a trail of rewards to get the carebears accepting slightly more risk each time. I have no idea how you would do that.