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New player - first impressions.

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Ichi Takiwa
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-14 15:18:34 UTC
Logged into Eve for the first time last night. Beautifully crafted game. Lovely atmospheric soundtrack. Spent a few hours just customizing my toon's look and bio, familiarizing myself with the UI, and starting the tutorial. Seems easy enough to pick up, but the amount of depth and freedom in the game should really suck me in. So, those who are about to die salute you! Lol

Just one question, I did purchase the Caldari Explorer pack. Should I finish my trial account before installing it?

Oh, and here's Ichi's theme song: Snog - Corporate Slave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXXzaaL8Khw
Ned Taggart
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-06-14 15:32:08 UTC
Ichi Takiwa wrote:
Just one question, I did purchase the Caldari Explorer pack. Should I finish my trial account before installing it?


I faced this exact question last night. There are two sides to this. First, you get 44 days if you wait till the end of the trial to upgrade. Now that said, there are a few skills that you cannot train on a trial account, In my case, I believe it was salvage. I was 7 days in when I ran across this, but I already knew I was going to subscribe, so I just went ahead and did it.

If there is nothing in the Explorer pack you absolutely need, then wait until you reach a stumbling block you cannot overcome because you are on a trial account, then subscribe.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-06-14 15:33:22 UTC
you can upgrade now, no game time will be lost. you should also use the Prototype Cerebral Accelerator as soon as possible because it will only work on characters younger than 35 days. instead of using it, you can also sell it for some nice start capital.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Ichi Takiwa
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-06-14 15:39:41 UTC
Thanks for the quick replies. I'm sure isk won't be a problem in this game. Think I'll install the pack tonight and use my accelerator. Found a nice skill guide too, so I'm all about helping to kick start my skill training. It's gonna be a fun weekend!
Oraac Ensor
#5 - 2013-06-14 15:42:31 UTC
Ned Taggart wrote:
First, you get 44 days if you wait till the end of the trial to upgrade.

You get 44 days no matter when you upgrade.
Atkins Friendly
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-14 15:54:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Atkins Friendly
some helpful advice - i wouldn't say Eve is "easy enough" just yet.

You're going to get fustrated, you're going to hate it, and you're going to want to quit.

But, the reward is worth the fustrations. You're still new so make ALL the mistakes now and learn from each one. By all means though, never give up. It will payout in the end.

Fly safe bro
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#7 - 2013-06-14 16:00:40 UTC
Welcome to the community :D

The Drake is a Lie

Ned Taggart
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-14 16:07:44 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Ned Taggart wrote:
First, you get 44 days if you wait till the end of the trial to upgrade.

You get 44 days no matter when you upgrade.


Wow, really? I didn't know this. Very cool.
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#9 - 2013-06-14 16:07:54 UTC


It's as easy or hard as you want to make it. Remember to leave the basement for at least 15 minutes a day to get vitamin E.
Ace Menda
Gemini Lounge
#10 - 2013-06-14 16:09:55 UTC
Noxisia Arkana wrote:


It's as easy or hard as you want to make it. Remember to leave the basement for at least 15 minutes a day to get vitamin E.


Agreed.

Playing EVE as we speak on the laptop while sitting in the yard.

Are you in need of some nice chat? Are you new and want some help? Look no further and join: Crazy Dutch Guy

Nox Solitudo
That Random Worker Ant Colony
#11 - 2013-06-14 16:57:10 UTC
Ace Menda wrote:


Playing EVE as we speak on the laptop while sitting in the yard.


that's my plan for the weekend...
Ekhss Nihilo
The Night Watchmen
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2013-06-14 17:24:02 UTC
Ichi Takiwa wrote:
Thanks for the quick replies. I'm sure isk won't be a problem in this game. Think I'll install the pack tonight and use my accelerator. Found a nice skill guide too, so I'm all about helping to kick start my skill training. It's gonna be a fun weekend!

Yes, EVE is stunning, isn't it? I'm also a fairly new EVE citizen. There are some moments that are absolutely unforgettable, like the first time you take your pod out of station to board your first ship.

And there is so much to learn. My initial focus was on basic game mechanics - what do you do to make something happen. The tutorial arcs are a great help in that regard. Do them all. You'll get some useful ships and loot in the process.

Try roaming around a bit, but stay in high-sec for at least a little while before you try the more dangerous areas. And that's the thing about the EVE universe. Danger lurks everywhere, even in the allegedly high-security areas. As others have said, the very act of undocking means that you stand a chance of getting your ship blown up, your pod destroyed and you waking up back in your station of origin. Some can handle that, some can't.

The Bloodstained Stars epic arc is a good place to continue your tutorial experience. That one takes you to each one of the four races' regions and adds a ton of experience. Not to mention more useful loot.

Do give some serious thought to joining a corp after you finish those tutorials and the epic arc. The right group will greatly enhance your learning, experience and survivability. The one I'm with offers a lot of variety and is very new-citizen friendly.

Welcome to EVE - and fly safe.

"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180)

Ichi Takiwa
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-06-14 17:59:44 UTC
Thanks for all the great tips! I've been a fan of space flight sims since Wing Commander. This game's got some great elements from Privateer and Freelancer too. I have to say that what kept me away for so long was some of the horror stories about gankfests and the steep learning curve in the early version of the game.

After watching the intro demo which explains the immortality through cloning concept, I totally get it that you can't become attached to your ships. I'm sure I'll has a sad the first time I get popped, but the game just looks far too interesting to let that deter me.

How does the established player base feel about newbies in this game? I understand everything revolves around competition, but hopefully it's not cutthroat enough to drive away the majority of new blood.

Once I get all my tutorials done I'm going to start researching Caldari corps to see if I can find a good fit. Any guilds that participate in light RP ICC? I think my main focus will be exploration until I get my bearings and enough isk for PvP.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-06-14 18:47:19 UTC
There are 3 very big organisations that are dedicated to giving new players the best start they could get in this game.

Firstly the one I am attached to: EVE University. Pain in the ass to join and there are some certain restrictions to your gameplay (nothing that really affects a brand new player mind you) but overall the one with the best infrastructure and most dedicated to teaching.

Secondly we have RvB which is actually 2 alliances that have declared mutual war on each other. You join either Red (R) or Blue (B) and you are thrown immediately into war with the opposing side. There isn't any structured teaching but there are many excellent pilots in RvB who are more than willing to impart knowledge on those who seek it.

Finally we have a relatively new Alliance that was formed to take up the niche of head-first, no questions asked, kitchen-sink PvP. Brave Newbies (now the Brave Collective alliance) has enjoyed incredible growth and success in recent months. They recruit anyone and have quite a few experienced people in leadership that take newbies through all sorts of space, with the main objective to PvP against literally anyone.

You'll see that the second two are mainly PvP focused while EVE University have classes on all aspects of eve. We also have secondary campuses that focus on low security, no security and wormhole space which i don't think the other two have officially established yet.

Even if none of the above appeal to you: I highly suggest joining a player corporation sooner rather than later :)
Rynn Vendran
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-06-14 19:28:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Rynn Vendran
Tsukino Stareine wrote:


Firstly the one I am attached to: EVE University. Pain in the ass to join and there are some certain restrictions to your gameplay (nothing that really affects a brand new player mind you) but overall the one with the best infrastructure and most dedicated to teaching.




I made the decision to apply to E-UNI a couple days ago because I want to get as much of a full-rounded experience as I can before I commit time and ISK to PvP (and other corporations). Not sure how long it takes to get accepted (if even at all) but in the meantime I've been running missions in hisec so I can try out different ships and builds. So far it's been great and my ability to process EVE's legendary learning curve has been improving bit by bit. Hopefully if I hear back from E-UNI and am able to join I'll also be in a position to help other newbs even as I continue to learn and hone my skills.

I should also add that the support from forum members has been especially awesome and very appreciated, though you do sometimes have to separate the wheat from the chaff. Overall, definitely more positive than negative.

Blink

_Hey now, hey now now, sing this corrosion to me... _

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#16 - 2013-06-14 19:42:47 UTC
Rynn Vendran wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:


Firstly the one I am attached to: EVE University. Pain in the ass to join and there are some certain restrictions to your gameplay (nothing that really affects a brand new player mind you) but overall the one with the best infrastructure and most dedicated to teaching.




I made the decision to apply to E-UNI a couple days ago because I want to get as much of a full-rounded experience as I can before I commit time and ISK to PvP (and other corporations). Not sure how long it takes to get accepted (if even at all) but in the meantime I've been running missions in hisec so I can try out different ships and builds. So far it's been great and my ability to process EVE's legendary learning curve has been improving bit by bit. Hopefully if I hear back from E-UNI and am able to join I'll also be in a position to help other newbs even as I continue to learn and hone my skills.

I should also add that the support from forum members has been especially awesome and very appreciated, though you do sometimes have to separate the wheat from the chaff. Overall, definitely more positive than negative.

Blink



I have never done recruiting for EVE Uni obviously but this is what i have been told about their process. Basically you apply, fill out the forms containing some basic questions regarding your self. From there you end up in a line. I think you have to stay in their channel for this?
When you log off your spot in the line gets reset and you are remove from the queue until the next time you log in.

As an example.
If 100 people applied to join before you, but only 15 of those people are online, you will be number 15 in the queue.

Because of this its really hard to know how long it will take before its your turn, but just be patient. I have heard about it taking a couple of weeks before you get to talk to a recruiter.

And for the OP, cant believe no one has posted this yet Lol
Welcome to EVE and i hope you will have fun! Smile

Ichi Takiwa
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-06-14 20:32:35 UTC
Is it advisable to do a neural remap now into Int and Mem to maximize exploration skill training? Someone mentioned that you can safely set Cha to its minimum value, but would that affect agent missions?
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#18 - 2013-06-14 20:53:12 UTC
Ichi Takiwa wrote:
Is it advisable to do a neural remap now into Int and Mem to maximize exploration skill training? Someone mentioned that you can safely set Cha to its minimum value, but would that affect agent missions?


Your attributes will not affect agent missions at all. Charisma affects some skills related to missions (Security Connections as an example), but overall there is so few skills you train that depends on charisma that most will just lower it as much as possible and spend the points elsewhere.

On top of my head skills that needs charisma.
LP/standing increase from missions.
Diplomacy skills.
Trade skills.
Corp management (i think?).
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-06-14 20:54:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Builder
Your attributes only affect skill training and nothing else.
That being said, I'd train some social skills before setting Charisma to its minimum.

Edit: ninjaed by NC - good idea with the skill list. You forgot:
"Leadership" skills, which boost fleet members.
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#20 - 2013-06-14 21:23:25 UTC
Thomas Builder wrote:
Your attributes only affect skill training and nothing else.
That being said, I'd train some social skills before setting Charisma to its minimum.

Edit: ninjaed by NC - good idea with the skill list. You forgot:
"Leadership" skills, which boost fleet members.


Bah now i feel embarrassed! Maybe i have just blocked them out since it took me so long to train them and not i get sick just thinking about it Lol

Thanks for adding it in Smile
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