EVE General Discussion

But removing local would remove the fun one gets from cloaking in 'hostile' space.

But you just said "and you can only play when a bunch of friends are on" suggesting you are operating on your own




People drop carriers and blops on your single retriever a lot, do they?

and how do you know they are afk ?

you cant - you have to assume they are active, and ready to hotdrop you with a fleet of scary ships with experienced pilots and a capable FC. And as there is no way to know you have to prepare for the worst least you get burned, lose a ton of isk and get ridiculed by your alliance and corpmates.

I sometiems operate on my own - because not everyone plays at the same time and i have windows of time that I have due to RL, family, work, wife, child, cat aggro .. so i play when i play .. and if corp is on they on and we support each other, and they are not I dont just station spin till they show up.

I have not been blopped but that does not mean it does not happen. I hear tales of woe from my fellow nullbears daily.

Preparing for the worst does not include sitting in a station.

Preparing for the worst means getting all of your corp/alliance mates operating within a couple of systems radius to be in gang, organized and ready to PVP while they are going about their normal business. When word comes that a hot drop is in progress they need to be able to respond instantly, with a designated FC ready to take command.

I'll say this as gently as possible, you really need to start thinking like a predator instead of thinking like prey.

OR Scatter like pigeons, and dont forget to be in a faster ship than the closest of your corp mates.


Remember, hobbling your friend saves the herd.

duno about retreivers, and dont know about single ships... -but you would have to ask the hot dropers why they might drop on a few hulks, rat sec and haulers. i would assume they like to kill stuff to feel good about themselves and pad their stats .. duno - i have yet to get my mind, as empathetic as i am, into the mindset of the rapid pvp griefers that seem to exist.

I know they are not afk when they uncloak so until that happens I couldn't give a damn.

If they do uncloak then if you are in a half decent corp / alliance then they should counter.. the worst that can happen is that you lose your space pixels and you get the **** taken out of you

I would love to see a setup, that is supposed to work against this sort of threat.
You dont pve in pvp fitted ships, if you do, you're wasting your time.

You dont have people on standby, because what would they do? - Yes they could be alts, but those alts could do something better.
You can have an ever so experienced FC, it won't do anything good though. Because the ships you're flying at fitted for anything but pvp.


1. Those people that says ignore the local neut, are terrible players.. i would not be surpised to see their head on a stick, on a nice killmail, flying a pve fitted ship worth billions.

2. If you ignore an obvious threat(however so slight it might be) you're a fool. You dont prepare for the worst, you stay away from it.

3. You never know if that cloaky is afk or not, therefore he's a threat regardless of him actually being there or not, if you see it in any other way, you're gambling. And if you gamble you might loose simple as that. Play safe, and stay alive.

3. Cloaking is incredibly powerfull, it is a powerfull to what danger a human-being percieves it to be. That being that it's an unknown, and we all know how humans reacts to unknowns aiiight?

4. Cloaking is being looked at! Stated by mr. Fozzie, in a newish interview on twitch, i dont remember which one but it's fairly recent <1 month i believe.




#0 The best way to counter a cloaky is to start ratting in another system. If that cloaky moves system, to yours... you can try and bait him.

So much effort to bung a point or two on an armour Cane