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ISK devaluation

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Number 17
COLD-Wing
#1 - 2013-06-14 10:54:06 UTC
How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked!
Is it easier to make isk now?
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#2 - 2013-06-14 10:57:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tom Gerard
Number 17 wrote:
How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked!
Is it easier to make isk now?


I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties.

I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all.

200m
7m
3m
22k * 2k = 44m

I consider myself an average mission runner so thats:
254m/hour

Now with 100% less Troll.

Kara Vix
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-14 11:00:20 UTC
Stealth nerf Hi-sec thread #465,873.
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#4 - 2013-06-14 11:04:05 UTC
Kara Vix wrote:
Stealth nerf Hi-sec thread #465,873.


Correction this is a PUBLIC nerf High-Sec Thread, and our Registration is 248218&.

Now with 100% less Troll.

Kara Vix
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-06-14 11:05:15 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
Stealth nerf Hi-sec thread #465,873.


Correction this is a PUBLIC nerf High-Sec Thread, and our Registration is 248218&.



I stand corrected...well, sit corrected anyway.
FlamesOfHeaven
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-06-14 11:05:20 UTC
*cough* Incursion *cough*
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters
Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
#7 - 2013-06-14 11:06:49 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
Number 17 wrote:
How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked!
Is it easier to make isk now?


I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties.

I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all.

200m
7m
3m
22k * 2k = 44m

I consider myself an average mission runner so thats:
254m/hour



Please name which lvl 4 has 100m in loot and bounties.

Those numbers are off .
Capt Tenguru10
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-06-14 11:07:41 UTC
FlamesOfHeaven wrote:
*cough* Incursion *cough*



cough exploration cough

http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif

Kara Vix
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-06-14 11:09:28 UTC
Tyrton wrote:
Tom Gerard wrote:
Number 17 wrote:
How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked!
Is it easier to make isk now?


I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties.

I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all.

200m
7m
3m
22k * 2k = 44m

I consider myself an average mission runner so thats:
254m/hour



Please name which lvl 4 has 100m in loot and bounties.

Those numbers are off .


Way off, at least post mission loot nerf. At one time you could get that out of Dread Pirate easily but now days its just mostly a bunch of scrap metal. I feel like Charlie Brown at halloween when I salvage but instead of rocks I get scrap metal.
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#10 - 2013-06-14 11:11:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tom Gerard
Tyrton wrote:
Tom Gerard wrote:
Number 17 wrote:
How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked!
Is it easier to make isk now?


I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties.

I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all.

200m
7m
3m
22k * 2k = 44m

I consider myself an average mission runner so thats:
254m/hour



Please name which lvl 4 has 100m in loot and bounties.

Those numbers are off .



YOUR PART OF THE WITCH HUNT, YOU JUST WANT NAMES AND NUMBERS TO SEND SS COLONEL HANS LANDA AFTER ALL OF US!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRUybsWQ7fE

Now with 100% less Troll.

ACE McFACE
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-06-14 11:14:32 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
Tyrton wrote:
Tom Gerard wrote:
Number 17 wrote:
How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked!
Is it easier to make isk now?


I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties.

I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all.

200m
7m
3m
22k * 2k = 44m

I consider myself an average mission runner so thats:
254m/hour



Please name which lvl 4 has 100m in loot and bounties.

Those numbers are off .



YOUR PART OF THE WITCH HUNT, YOU JUST WANT NAMES AND NUMBERS TO SEND SS COLONEL HANS LANDA AFTER ALL OF US!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRUybsWQ7fE

Shh Tom, hes not worth your time.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Linna Baresi
#12 - 2013-06-14 11:15:09 UTC
I honestly don't know how it is for the older players, but as a new player, I do think there's some hyperinflation going on. If I compare the tier 1 mission rewards to the prices I see in the market... there seems to be a discrepancy between new player earning capacity and going rates for even the more basic necessities, let alone the slightly more advanced skillbooks (mining connections: 20 million... ouch).

Member of since 2003 fated.europefreeforum.com

Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#13 - 2013-06-14 11:17:02 UTC
Linna Baresi wrote:
I honestly don't know how it is for the older players, but as a new player, I do think there's some hyperinflation going on. If I compare the tier 1 mission rewards to the prices I see in the market... there seems to be a discrepancy between new player earning capacity and going rates for even the more basic necessities, let alone the slightly more advanced skillbooks (mining connections: 20 million... ouch).


Answer: Join RVB, Scoop Loot.

Now with 100% less Troll.

Kara Vix
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-06-14 11:18:57 UTC
Linna Baresi wrote:
I honestly don't know how it is for the older players, but as a new player, I do think there's some hyperinflation going on. If I compare the tier 1 mission rewards to the prices I see in the market... there seems to be a discrepancy between new player earning capacity and going rates for even the more basic necessities, let alone the slightly more advanced skillbooks (mining connections: 20 million... ouch).


It was always difficult for new players, even old players were new players once and things weren't handed out free back then either. Start slow and suddenly you find yourself earning plenty.
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-06-14 11:26:10 UTC
Been wondering this myself a few times.

If my memory serves me right you could buy hurricanes for about 25 mil (?) maybe even less back in '09 and 2010. Warp disruptor II's were well under 1 mil a piece, just to give a couple of examples.
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#16 - 2013-06-14 11:27:24 UTC
Bischopt wrote:
Been wondering this myself a few times.

If my memory serves me right you could buy hurricanes for about 25 mil (?) maybe even less back in '09 and 2010. Warp disruptor II's were well under 1 mil a piece, just to give a couple of examples.


It is SO HARD to run Sisters of EVE Epic Arcs in a Gnosis with small guns and large tank modules.

Now with 100% less Troll.

Alternate Poster
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#17 - 2013-06-14 11:35:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Alternate Poster
edit: How does CCP break a POST?
Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
#18 - 2013-06-14 11:36:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Toralen
Tom Gerard wrote:
[quote=Number 17]I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all.

200m
7m
3m
22k * 2k = 44m

I consider myself an average mission runner so thats:
254m/hour


Your math is way off. I say that as someone who was in the reprocessing business and as someone who has grinded through endless l4's.

The only missions where i can see that work are the ones against other factions and those should regular mission runners avoid due to the standing losses.
iskflakes
#19 - 2013-06-14 11:40:55 UTC
I would randomly guess ISK is worth half as much as it was in 2010.

ISK faucets need to be nerfed, very hard (not just highsec either).

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#20 - 2013-06-14 11:41:27 UTC
Missions, incursions, and wormhole blue loot are the cause. And possibly FW (I have no direct experience with the amount of isk generated in that particular endeavor)

The solution is to explode more ships as they are in the process of farming those things.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

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