Warfare & Tactics

Always assume the cyno will die and make sure you got spares but a noob ship will do to fit it on.

Yep you can jump out of highsec.

You never want to be lighting a cyno on a gate, you won't be in jump range and will die, use a station ( make sure it not a kickout station ) or a pos with a **** ton of nasty stuff on it.

I don't know how anyone else does this, but this is how i do it.

First of all I use a noob-ship to put up the cyno if I'm doing it on a station. no ship costs and you get a new one as soon as you dock.

In order to make it fit, depending on skills you might need to put a T1 cargo expander on it. virtually zero cost there too and if you're smart the first time you jump in you'll just bring a few.

Second, when i want to light the cyno I first start the self destruct. When it gets down to about 15 seconds I pop the cyno and jump. 15 seconds later the cyno ship blows up and both characters dock up. undock again in your new noob ship to pick up the loot (9 times out of 10 your mods will drop) and there you go.

Like I said I don't know how anyone else does it but this works for me.

My cyno alt survives his 10 minutes more often then not, so just log it off and hope for the best.



Unless you want to provide someone with a real nice and juicy killmail (we're talking jump freighters here, right?), you never ever want to do this (positiong cyno on jump gates). The way to get your JF back to your hisec island is fairly simple:

a) find a station with good docking range in your lowsec exit-to-hisec system (models such as this work really well)
b) light a cyno within docking range of that station
c) jump your JF to that cyno, and then use jump button on gate to hisec (so there is no chance of you bumping off the gate model)
d) enter hisec and start breathing again

Things you what to avoid when jumping your JF:
a) kickout stations (stations which have extremely short docking range, basically as soon as you undock you'll see that distance from station starts to rise)
b) jumping to a system with a lot of active cyno killers (if someone kills your cyno as you jump, problems might happen)
c) poorly placing your cyno so that your JF can bounce off station (take your time and check your cyno's positioning, ten times if necessary).
d) using JF when youre cognitive capabilites are reduced (read: very tired, drunk etc.)

There is a really good and informative guide written by Azuall Skoll on moving capitals, read it here.
Good luck!

Thanks all for your contributions. I actually practiced on SiSI today.

I don't know how I got the idea that I was supposed to light a cyno on a gate, but thanks for setting me straight.

I guess all the normal scouting tasks apply too, because even though you are jumping to stations, you might still face hostiles, but risks seem to be minimal with the strategies listed above.

So thanks again. And I sure hope with this knowledge, it won't be me in your kill mails!

OP can afford a jump freightor but is worried about ~3m isk cyno...

LoL - good point. I'm not really worried about it, I just wanted to know costs to add up the "cost of doing business" accurately. Like the old saying : the rich got rich by being cheap bastards.

people should stop answering questions from some dude who called the market window the "AH".

Eh, there's some prejudice here against terms that sound like they come out of WOW or other MMO games. EVE actually has its own auction system, but it's under Contracts, not the Market. You'll pick up the lingo as you go, provided that some people don't freeze the less well-informed out for not using the locally-accepted terminology.

Going to help on this one:

1) If you plan to make cynos in 0.0 where you do not have trustworthy people in place already that can light a cyno for example because you are doing courier work and therefore entering various different 0.0 Systems then a Covert Ops capable Cyno Alt will have a lot easier time to get there.

You do not have to risk your CovOps for cynoing. Simpy have spare cyno module and Liquid Ozone with you. When you reached your desired system you can dock your ship, eject and warp your pod to another station. Use the rookie ship with expanded Cargohold I (2) and the LO for making the cyno. If there is only one station you can eject the ship in a bookmarked safespot. Obviously you will have to scout the stations before that they are not bubbled when warping your pod around (otherwise make sure to set your clone somewhere close if possible to avoid being podded to the other side of the universe).

2) Hostiles are not that much of a problem to be honest. The session change is so short that you will be able to dock because no Machariel is going to bump you in time. Obviously it helps if you make a mistake: The first possible mistake is that you cynoed your ship too close to the station and it bumped - on a non-Caldari station this can result in you being out of docking range going >1km/s with your ship. If hostiles are on sight you will die in this situation.

The other possible mistake is that you cynoed your ship out of range of the station and you have to slowboat towards it: Again any hostiles around and you will probably die, especially if they have ships available well capable of bumping a JF.

Regarding getting out: If the system you cynoed in has a highsec gate you simply undock and press jump on the highsec gate meaing your JF will warp there and jump instantly. If someone would tackle you when aligning you simply redock. I have warped my Ark right into a pirate gatecamp sitting on the highsec gate this way.

You can fit a Rookie ship with the following:

Cyno, 2 Stasis webs and 2 expanded cargo holds (all basic t1).

You will have enough cargo for carrying the Liquid Ozone and webbing your freighter after pressing warp to will make it warp instantly.

And Rookie Ships do not get attacked so often.

EDIT: The only reason to self destruct your cyno would be if you cyno in somewhere off station and do not want people to warp to the cyno (even tho freighter would be long gone with the web method).