These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Missions & Complexes

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

Buzz Kill LVL 4 mission video
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#1 - 2013-06-13 09:59:52 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa_1Y2X9xG8

This mission is stupid long. Anyone who says otherwise is a troll

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-06-13 10:06:09 UTC
sentry domi warp in at 100 afk

Art of Explosions
Eyana Starstruck
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-13 14:12:45 UTC
Why do you even use wardens with domi unless you are shooting at guristas from above 70km range.

I haven't tested it myself but people are saying that the new domi can have garde II's at 70km optimal which is ludacris.

You need to rethink how you are doing that mission as well or well I have couple of questions for you:

1)Why did you not use MJD as soon as you landed on sight
2)(this comes from presumption that next time you use MJD as soon as you land) Why have you used wardens who are kinetic over bouncers who are explosive against angel cartel who are explosive weak npc faction.
3)Why do you have such insane tank on your domi, double rep with so many cap recharges in addition to MJD

Suggestions:

You are using an MJD fit which requires little tank, especially against angel cartel who are close range faction. Having double rep cap stable domi in addition to MJD is waaaaaaaay of an overkill. Roughly speaking this is what I suggest you try:

[high slots]
DLA's basically, maybe a shield and armor remote repairers but I never felt the need for them or any type of gun to pull agro.

[mid slots]
2xomnilinks
MJD
Sensor booster
5th slot can be fitted with a cap recharger or heavy cap booster (800 batteries) or hell even a target painter to pull agro if you don't have any guns, so you don't have to pull your drones in and out so you don't get them killed

as said with MJD fits you don't need so much tank so with that
[low slots]
2 missions specific hardeners 1 for primary 1 for secondary
large armor repairer
4 DDA

[rigs]
3xCCC or if you have a cap booster you can go with sentry optimal range and some other rigs of your choice

This fit should work like a charm and you should not be having any problems whatsoever...
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#4 - 2013-06-14 01:41:52 UTC
If you are the correct range, you do not even need a tank for this mission, can fit 100% ranged gank. Each frigate should take 1 salvo, the only thing that takes any time to kill are the elite cruisers. If you understand the spawning pattern you can also keep the ship numbers very low.

At one point the mission was a deadspace and you had to run to the sniping position, but I believe it will let you warp to 70 these days (if not, mjd or mwd will sort it out fast enough).

I had to have a snigger seeing the dual rep domi, gave me flashbacks to 2008.
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#5 - 2013-06-14 03:06:25 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
If you are the correct range, you do not even need a tank for this mission, can fit 100% ranged gank. Each frigate should take 1 salvo, the only thing that takes any time to kill are the elite cruisers. If you understand the spawning pattern you can also keep the ship numbers very low.

At one point the mission was a deadspace and you had to run to the sniping position, but I believe it will let you warp to 70 these days (if not, mjd or mwd will sort it out fast enough).

I had to have a snigger seeing the dual rep domi, gave me flashbacks to 2008.


That's why I used the MJD a few times. Like my drones loved eating them at a range

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-06-14 03:27:15 UTC
What a waste, only 1 DDA =S

Also wtf medium AND large hybrids on your domi. You don't have to warp into the mission at 0 either, just take bouncers and warp in at 100, everything dies before it can even get close.

Art of Explosions
Korah Arnelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-06-14 03:54:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Korah Arnelle
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
What a waste, only 1 DDA =S

Also wtf medium AND large hybrids on your domi. You don't have to warp into the mission at 0 either, just take bouncers and warp in at 100, everything dies before it can even get close.



Pretty much this. I suggest getting at least two DDA IIs and two DLA Is (or IIs if you have the skill trained up for it, I never bothered since 4 additional KM for the T2 DLAs just don't impress me) for your Domi. And just use three hardeners but maybe with the MJD it can be pared down possibly? I have no idea.

Here's my current "Blah I suck at life" fit.

[Dominix, New Setup 1]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I

425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Iron Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Iron Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Iron Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Warden I x5


It's not great in total DPS like what you'd see on other fits for a mission domi (i.e. no T2 guns or T2 sentries... I'm working on the sentries right now lol), but it can and will kill things faster in L4s than would've normally be possible say a year back. MJD is my favorite new toy. <3
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#8 - 2013-06-14 04:06:00 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
What a waste, only 1 DDA =S

Also wtf medium AND large hybrids on your domi. You don't have to warp into the mission at 0 either, just take bouncers and warp in at 100, everything dies before it can even get close.


To let you know, I do have a video on why I have what I have on my ship. Look for it on my channel. (I'm not going to give you the link because I'm wondering if you research before you speak)

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#9 - 2013-06-14 04:46:20 UTC
Craig Bennett2th wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
What a waste, only 1 DDA =S

Also wtf medium AND large hybrids on your domi. You don't have to warp into the mission at 0 either, just take bouncers and warp in at 100, everything dies before it can even get close.


To let you know, I do have a video on why I have what I have on my ship. Look for it on my channel. (I'm not going to give you the link because I'm wondering if you research before you speak)


Tsukino is right. Turrets and sentries both have tracking, and NPCs go through 2 phases, approach and orbit. They are critically vulnerable to being blapped with big guns on approach, and if you blap them with big guns on approach, they never orbit, so your medium rail is never useful, unless you wasted a big turret slot on it, and therefore lacked firepower on approach.

This is a problem that only occurs to people who dual rep and lack sufficient dps to blap an entire pack before it crosses the antimatter optimal of 350mms (where gardes will have perfect application, and where 350s will have excellent application).

In one mission I occasionally get an unlucky streak on the 4 spider drones present, they are the only time I ever use light drones for cleanup, and since the domi can use light drones if it must, there is no point weakening the firepower at the best range for gardes which occurs all the time, where as stuff really close is a really -rare- occurance, unless you fail at dominix fitting and piloting.
GreenSeed
#10 - 2013-06-14 04:56:15 UTC
i used to do that mission with a rattler killing all the triggers and going for a sandwich before the drone changes. now just do as others said, warp to 100km and snipe.

remember that sentries can only fire at things as far as your drone control range reaches, so unless you have a few million SP in drones you will need at least 2x drone range units. your mids should have a sebo, and one omnilink, but do try to get your hands on a faction omnilink. 2x faction links + bs4 + x2scope rigs and your gardes can hit up to 77km D: or 83km if you are lazy like me and forgot to switch training for 30 days and ended with gallbs 5. Blink

honestly you don't even need guns on the domi, highs are for drone range mods and some mild RR to keep your sentries alive. and if you do fit guns, fit downsized medium autocannons! blasters suck when unbonussed and used against small frigs... you will end up having to swap drones. since the hull has no gun bonus, you are not limited as to what you can fit. 180mm dual ACs can kill frigs in no time, specially the scram ones.


this is what i used on SiSi before patch while testing the domi changes, nothing was changed between Test and Tq, so it should still work fine. did a bunch of missions with it and never had to pulse the cap booster, i would drop it for another sebo.

oh, and the tank was generic. if you make it mission specific you can tank on two hardeners if you pimp them a little. although im not sure of what to fit on the freed low, since drone mods are already under heavy DR.

[Dominix, Fatso]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Large Micro Jump Drive

Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Remote Armor Repair System II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M

Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor II


Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5
Garde II x1
Bouncer II x1
Warrior II x5
Hornet II x5
Salvage Drone I x5




almost 780 drone DPS at 83km with perfect tracking... or 685dps at 166km with bouncers. but you will need 2x additional drone range mods and another sebo :D
that's not "pretend" DPS like machs do, its actual dps... faction Omnis are around 50m, so there's no excuse not to have em.
Lugalzagezi666
#11 - 2013-06-14 08:44:55 UTC
Craig Bennett2th wrote:
This mission is stupid long. Anyone who says otherwise is a troll

It sure takes alot of time when you are using just 1 damage mod fr drones and no guns...Roll

Mach needs 1 mwd cycle to get into range where it can 1 shot any frig. 1,5 cycle for vargur.
And domi? Since you have that mjd and dont use guns at all, why not just jump away at the start and kill everything with gardes from 100k instead of jumping around like drunk goat?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-14 17:57:18 UTC
Craig Bennett2th wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
What a waste, only 1 DDA =S

Also wtf medium AND large hybrids on your domi. You don't have to warp into the mission at 0 either, just take bouncers and warp in at 100, everything dies before it can even get close.


To let you know, I do have a video on why I have what I have on my ship. Look for it on my channel. (I'm not going to give you the link because I'm wondering if you research before you speak)


I don't need to research because there is no situation where mixing gun sizes is appropriate.

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think you even fired your guns in that video anyway.

Art of Explosions
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#13 - 2013-06-14 18:07:10 UTC
Craig, your fits are bad and your missioning videos are painful to watch, you should take the advice in this thread and improve before you start making videos on how to do missions.

P.S. Everyone should watch his Recon video where he's using TD and Web drones if you're in doubt of what I'm saying.
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#14 - 2013-06-14 20:42:22 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Craig, your fits are bad and your missioning videos are painful to watch, you should take the advice in this thread and improve before you start making videos on how to do missions.

P.S. Everyone should watch his Recon video where he's using TD and Web drones if you're in doubt of what I'm saying.



I don't even have web drones.

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt
Korah Arnelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-06-14 20:45:12 UTC
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:
Craig Bennett2th wrote:
This mission is stupid long. Anyone who says otherwise is a troll

It sure takes alot of time when you are using just 1 damage mod fr drones and no guns...Roll

Mach needs 1 mwd cycle to get into range where it can 1 shot any frig. 1,5 cycle for vargur.
And domi? Since you have that mjd and dont use guns at all, why not just jump away at the start and kill everything with gardes from 100k instead of jumping around like drunk goat?


Gardes, not likely, but Bouncers and Wardens hit reliably at that range even without OTAs due to the optimal range bonus now.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#16 - 2013-06-14 21:20:43 UTC
Korah Arnelle wrote:
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:
Craig Bennett2th wrote:
This mission is stupid long. Anyone who says otherwise is a troll

It sure takes alot of time when you are using just 1 damage mod fr drones and no guns...Roll

Mach needs 1 mwd cycle to get into range where it can 1 shot any frig. 1,5 cycle for vargur.
And domi? Since you have that mjd and dont use guns at all, why not just jump away at the start and kill everything with gardes from 100k instead of jumping around like drunk goat?


Gardes, not likely, but Bouncers and Wardens hit reliably at that range even without OTAs due to the optimal range bonus now.


Gardes with two FN omnis reach 73+12. Near enough 100 for most purposes (though technically not 100 on the nose, I'll admit that).

Anyhow. Yeah. These videos? Please stop posting them. It's spam at this point.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-06-14 21:41:15 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Craig Bennett2th wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
What a waste, only 1 DDA =S

Also wtf medium AND large hybrids on your domi. You don't have to warp into the mission at 0 either, just take bouncers and warp in at 100, everything dies before it can even get close.


To let you know, I do have a video on why I have what I have on my ship. Look for it on my channel. (I'm not going to give you the link because I'm wondering if you research before you speak)


I don't need to research because there is no situation where mixing gun sizes is appropriate.

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think you even fired your guns in that video anyway.


Actually, there is a need for that. I have my Destroyer set up mainly with Artillery along with 1 ac and rocket launcher. The reason for that is some missions drop you right in the middle of the rat pack and while getting range for the arties, can use the ac and rocket launcher to take out npc's that are next to you. Also can take out the really fast npc's while maintaining arty range for the pack.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#18 - 2013-06-14 21:46:12 UTC
For all of you who are saying warp to 100 to the mission. Idk if it was a glitch, but the game wouldn't let me. I even tried today when I got the mission again.

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt
shaie Terona
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-06-14 21:54:12 UTC
Each of these fits out perform what you use in every way shape and form.

Add implants if running cap stable is your thing.

[Dominix, single rep anp]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
100MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Garde II x5
Warden II x5


[Dominix, 4 dda]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
100MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warden II x5
Garde II x5



[Dominix, Dual rep]
Large Armor Repairer II
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
100MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Garde II x5


[Dominix, sniper domi]
Large Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warden II x6
Garde II x6


Pick one. no matter which they all do well.
Ms Valkyrie
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-06-14 23:08:20 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Anyhow. Yeah. These videos? Please stop posting them. It's spam at this point.


Gosh I thought you were joking until I hit the back button. OMG baby jesus that is a lot of threads. Here I was thinking I was a d bag for promoting my youtube channel with a single thread in the MyEve subforum.
12Next page