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THE EVE LAUNCHER

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Romana Erebus
The Dikembe Mutombo Shotblocking Team
#1 - 2013-06-13 18:57:50 UTC
Is it me or is this thing worthy of being hated with a passion. Eveytime I log in it takes like 10 minutes to validate and other assorted asshattery. Using the shortcut exe with splashscreen login is so much more efficient and less annoying. I HATE THIS LAUNCHER....and want to doomsday it.Evil
Chris Bailey
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-06-13 19:02:11 UTC
Implying you can even use a doomsday
CCP Atropos
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2013-06-13 23:34:35 UTC
Romana Erebus wrote:
Is it me or is this thing worthy of being hated with a passion. Eveytime I log in it takes like 10 minutes to validate and other assorted asshattery. Using the shortcut exe with splashscreen login is so much more efficient and less annoying. I HATE THIS LAUNCHER....and want to doomsday it.Evil

If you're validating everytime you start the EVE Launcher, and the game hasn't been updated then that's a bug and I would appreciate you taking the time to file a bug report.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#4 - 2013-06-13 23:42:12 UTC
Romana Erebus wrote:
Is it me or is this thing worthy of being hated with a passion. Eveytime I log in it takes like 10 minutes to validate and other assorted asshattery. Using the shortcut exe with splashscreen login is so much more efficient and less annoying. I HATE THIS LAUNCHER....and want to doomsday it.Evil

For me it takes max 3-4 seconds to validate, and that's on the slowest box (P4 3.2GHz).

If it takes 10 minutes to validate then you have a serious bug, and it would probably be smarter to file a bug report with your launcher log than post here.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

mkint
#5 - 2013-06-14 02:02:08 UTC
I'll stopwatch mine just so I have a number to say how much the launcher sucks. the one and only thing players asked for when the launcher was announced at the very beginning was that it didn't make the login experience worse. in that, ccp failed.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#6 - 2013-06-14 06:57:48 UTC
I don't know about the rest of you, but I rather like having the game patch itself without me needing to click "Yes, I want to download the new patch" and click "Yes, I want to install it here" and "Yes, I see that the update is complete" and then restart the game.

As for logging in, the time it takes from starting the launcher to entering the game seems to be the same or slightly less than it was for me to go from starting the client to entering the game under the old system.
mkint
#7 - 2013-06-14 07:16:47 UTC  |  Edited by: mkint
got everything patched up, and ran a stopwatch. Running the launcher there is more than a minute and a half of time where the client cannot be interacted with at all (i.e. waiting to enter password, choose character.) Just running the client, bypassing the launcher it takes less than 40 seconds. Launcher fail.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Kora Ethereal
Ethereal Beings
#8 - 2013-06-14 07:21:35 UTC
:/ I can instantly login w/o a problem, Then agian I'm running on a Vertex 4 and a SSD cached WD Scorpio Black, It takes a whopping 48 milliseconds for me to validate.
AutumnWind1983
Reboot Required
#9 - 2013-06-15 05:46:05 UTC
CCP Atropos wrote:
Romana Erebus wrote:
Is it me or is this thing worthy of being hated with a passion. Eveytime I log in it takes like 10 minutes to validate and other assorted asshattery. Using the shortcut exe with splashscreen login is so much more efficient and less annoying. I HATE THIS LAUNCHER....and want to doomsday it.Evil

If you're validating everytime you start the EVE Launcher, and the game hasn't been updated then that's a bug and I would appreciate you taking the time to file a bug report.


My logs generate nothing. How should I be doing this? When will you roll back this and give us something that actually . . . you know works . . .

James Arget for CSM 8! http://csm.fcftw.org

CCP Atropos
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2013-06-15 17:11:39 UTC
Start the EVE Launcher; logs from it are stored in a folder called launcher\cache inside the EVE installation.
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-06-15 23:25:43 UTC
My dear CCP Atropos, why cant i log in with launcher (tells me Tranquality offline) while I can log in using exefile.exe
CCP Atropos
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2013-06-24 15:07:55 UTC
AutumnWind1983 wrote:
CCP Atropos wrote:
Romana Erebus wrote:
Is it me or is this thing worthy of being hated with a passion. Eveytime I log in it takes like 10 minutes to validate and other assorted asshattery. Using the shortcut exe with splashscreen login is so much more efficient and less annoying. I HATE THIS LAUNCHER....and want to doomsday it.Evil

If you're validating everytime you start the EVE Launcher, and the game hasn't been updated then that's a bug and I would appreciate you taking the time to file a bug report.


My logs generate nothing. How should I be doing this? When will you roll back this and give us something that actually . . . you know works . . .

So, any luck? You've not replied to the thread, so can I safely assume the issue is resolved?
CCP Atropos
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2013-06-24 15:10:57 UTC
mkint wrote:
got everything patched up, and ran a stopwatch. Running the launcher there is more than a minute and a half of time where the client cannot be interacted with at all (i.e. waiting to enter password, choose character.) Just running the client, bypassing the launcher it takes less than 40 seconds. Launcher fail.

Any chance you can give me your logs?
Draconus Lofwyr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-06-24 18:50:18 UTC
for me, the launcher REMOVES functionality i had before, I am no longer able to hit escape and relaunch the client, i have to run the launcher over again every time i want to switch toons or accounts.
And telling me the launcher is running and just relaunch from there isn't an option, i tell the launcher to unload after launching the client as i don't want wasted processes floating around as EvE is a massive memory hog as it is, leaks and all, i cant always afford to have a second useless app floating around for hours leaking more memory i cant afford to loose.

fix functionality as it was, or remove the damned launcher in total.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#15 - 2013-06-25 18:17:16 UTC
Draconus Lofwyr wrote:
for me, the launcher REMOVES functionality i had before, I am no longer able to hit escape and relaunch the client, i have to run the launcher over again every time i want to switch toons or accounts.
And telling me the launcher is running and just relaunch from there isn't an option, i tell the launcher to unload after launching the client as i don't want wasted processes floating around as EvE is a massive memory hog as it is, leaks and all, i cant always afford to have a second useless app floating around for hours leaking more memory i cant afford to loose.

fix functionality as it was, or remove the damned launcher in total.


It does seem a bit backwards that re-launching the client, which used to be handled automatically, is now handled manually. I assume there's some sort of a good reason behind it, but that isn't the point I want to address here.

I don't know about you, but for me the launcher is quietly idling in the background taking up only 116k of memory. If you can't afford it, then perhaps the problem is that your computer needs a memory upgrade.

Too many people try to play EVE on potatoes and then complain that EVE is a broken, laggy pile of crap when something doesn't work right. Don't be like those people.
Draconus Lofwyr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-06-25 21:00:50 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Draconus Lofwyr wrote:
for me, the launcher REMOVES functionality i had before, I am no longer able to hit escape and relaunch the client, i have to run the launcher over again every time i want to switch toons or accounts.
And telling me the launcher is running and just relaunch from there isn't an option, i tell the launcher to unload after launching the client as i don't want wasted processes floating around as EvE is a massive memory hog as it is, leaks and all, i cant always afford to have a second useless app floating around for hours leaking more memory i cant afford to loose.

fix functionality as it was, or remove the damned launcher in total.


It does seem a bit backwards that re-launching the client, which used to be handled automatically, is now handled manually. I assume there's some sort of a good reason behind it, but that isn't the point I want to address here.

I don't know about you, but for me the launcher is quietly idling in the background taking up only 116k of memory. If you can't afford it, then perhaps the problem is that your computer needs a memory upgrade.

Too many people try to play EVE on potatoes and then complain that EVE is a broken, laggy pile of crap when something doesn't work right. Don't be like those people.



I do server and network engineering for a living in a major telco. have been in IT for almost 20 years, i pay VERY close attention to whats running on my systems and how much memory they use because i run a LOT of apps that i need to run. my main concern is when i run it on my work laptop, i can not upgrade due to 32 bit memory limitations, and when i run 2 clients, every k of memory counts. its an unneeded app and a complication of the system overall. that borderlines on bloatware and adware as that seems to be the primary goal of the launcher, to throw up ad's in our faces every time we log in.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#17 - 2013-06-25 21:31:41 UTC
Looking at the launcher right now, the only ads I see are the ones in the bottom left corner for the collector's edition and for PLEX. I actually don't see anything in the new launcher that wasn't in the old launcher except for the login area.

As a separate question, was there this much rage and furor over the old launcher? I don't remember it being like this.
James Bullseye
Szent Korona Klub
#18 - 2013-06-26 22:54:09 UTC
I liked the old fashion way,this launcher looks nice but it is still rotten inside.The old way just got working.And then you develop a something "new" and throw everything out old through that window now this is where things goes wrong.Have to go back for the first steps the old ways if you like and re think everything you did.
AutumnWind1983
Reboot Required
#19 - 2013-07-11 03:20:36 UTC
CCP Atropos wrote:
AutumnWind1983 wrote:
CCP Atropos wrote:
Romana Erebus wrote:
Is it me or is this thing worthy of being hated with a passion. Eveytime I log in it takes like 10 minutes to validate and other assorted asshattery. Using the shortcut exe with splashscreen login is so much more efficient and less annoying. I HATE THIS LAUNCHER....and want to doomsday it.Evil

If you're validating everytime you start the EVE Launcher, and the game hasn't been updated then that's a bug and I would appreciate you taking the time to file a bug report.


My logs generate nothing. How should I be doing this? When will you roll back this and give us something that actually . . . you know works . . .

So, any luck? You've not replied to the thread, so can I safely assume the issue is resolved?


Your guess would be incorrect. I haven't been playing, and hence not going hunting for error logs, since you guys have made playing an extremely unenjoyable experience, then refused to do anything about this. If you wouldn't mind getting the jump gate animate some attention that would be appreciated. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=243438

James Arget for CSM 8! http://csm.fcftw.org