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CCP you're proud about your results yet?

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Majuan Shuo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2011-11-07 02:12:01 UTC
0.0 douche here - i just got back from a break and so far ive seen lots of ppl - idk what theyre talking about Roll

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
#22 - 2011-11-07 02:17:42 UTC
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:
Very interessting replies so far and ...HAHAHAHA i take the others humoristic....But fact is...with the plan and coming stuff CCP is dong especially PI related it will drive many peoples back from lowsec and also 0.0 back in hisec ....cause why some will ask...simple fact..most the PI prodders are jsut NPC chars or otherwise related chars in small corps aren't hassling with the grudge building up a Custom office around a planet in low or 0.0 at all.

So...CCP's plan to get more peoples in low or 0.0 is failing in this part totally you all will see but if some not believe...wait for it getting life on TQ and suffer the consequences going all along.




Shhhh, stop before you hurt yourself.

Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen.                   And some days, you're just a man with a gun.

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
#23 - 2011-11-07 02:20:01 UTC
mkint wrote:
This is inline with CCP's goals of making 0.0 worthless, and everything not worthless owned by their friends, and I'd guess CCP alts are not in those alliances that have evacuated null.



Sound like someone got butt-hurt in the north.

Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen.                   And some days, you're just a man with a gun.

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
#24 - 2011-11-07 02:24:10 UTC
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:

Otherwise we know Goons intention was from begin with destroying not the single players game it was about DESTROYING WHOLE GAMES



Uh oh, more conspiracy theories about the Goons trying to destroy EVE Online. You guys need to stop breeding.

Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen.                   And some days, you're just a man with a gun.

Chelone
Outside The Asylum
#25 - 2011-11-07 03:49:14 UTC
Whenever the last person leaves 0.0, tell them to send me a message so I can go in and have fun exploiting the Eve universe solo.
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#26 - 2011-11-07 03:54:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Hammond II
Mortis vonShadow wrote:
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:

Otherwise we know Goons intention was from begin with destroying not the single players game it was about DESTROYING WHOLE GAMES



Uh oh, more conspiracy theories about the Goons trying to destroy EVE Online. You guys need to stop breeding.


and watching youtube right? Cause didnt mittens say that himself at a fanfest?
Pretend harder.
They were even in Star Trek Online. Did you know that? They turned that game from PVE only to open PVP lol. They were called Starfleet Dental.

But yeah. Youre right. They dont actively TRY to break games.
roflmao, YOURE the one that shouldnt breed bud

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

pussnheels
Viziam
#27 - 2011-11-07 09:18:36 UTC
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:
Getting reports from friends about visiting most 0.0 systems in the north are mostly abbandoned not even cultivated like they were in the past by renter corps mining facilitiyng prodding there and stuff, seeing Infra hubs Offlining en masse in a row causing those once proud Great industrial systems getting to an devastate ( Standard default ) state.

So...also getting reports happening to the south and east as well....Cause of ....WHAT GOD knows happened lately......

I'm sure your plans getting peoples to low / 0.0 are just kicking back and the news of your plans introducing PI Changes are a roots cause as well.

So CCP you're proud about the first impact of your newly introduced plans?



Don't blame CCP alone the large nul sec alliances themselves are to blamed aswell
Their PVP only mentallity isn't really promoting industry in nulsec beyond moongoo and abc ores in some alliances
Sad but true , there is already a long thread of ideas of how to repopulate nulsec and why it isn't happening or why so many people have turned their back to nulsec , despite all the effort being taken by CCP

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2011-11-07 09:21:52 UTC
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:
Getting reports from friends about visiting most 0.0 systems in the north are mostly abbandoned not even cultivated like they were in the past by renter corps mining facilitiyng prodding there and stuff, seeing Infra hubs Offlining en masse in a row causing those once proud Great industrial systems getting to an devastate ( Standard default ) state.

So...also getting reports happening to the south and east as well....Cause of ....WHAT GOD knows happened lately......

I'm sure your plans getting peoples to low / 0.0 are just kicking back and the news of your plans introducing PI Changes are a roots cause as well.

So CCP you're proud about the first impact of your newly introduced plans?


This is bad news?

Hopfully this frees up some space for smaller alliances to grab some space. A fresh start, away from all these massive coalition wars.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2011-11-07 09:56:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
Richard Hammond II wrote:
and watching youtube right? Cause didnt mittens say that himself at a fanfest?

[citation needed]

all I am aware of is Darius Johnson (aka CCP Sreegs, then GoonSwarm CEO) saying sth along the lines of "We aren't here to destroy the game, we are here to destroy your game" at the alliance panel some years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXOHjQoq0Rs

which is pretty much the direct opposite of what you claim - his whole point is that EVE must not die so he can continue to farm your tears.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2011-11-07 11:27:26 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
Richard Hammond II wrote:
and watching youtube right? Cause didnt mittens say that himself at a fanfest?

[citation needed]

all I am aware of is Darius Johnson (aka CCP Sreegs, then GoonSwarm CEO) saying sth along the lines of "We aren't here to destroy the game, we are here to destroy your game" at the alliance panel some years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXOHjQoq0Rs

which is pretty much the direct opposite of what you claim - his whole point is that EVE must not die so he can continue to farm your tears.



Please send me a billion ISK, you will get them back including 20% interest.
I can even make you a youtube video of it or say it in front of a crowd, if you want.

OF COURSE ... because they changed/killed games over and over again that
OF COURSE doesn't mean they will do it again this time,
because some guy who even works for CCP now says so ...

Two goons in CCP and a Goon as the head of CSM ...

You don't know how stupid you actually are, hu ?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2011-11-07 11:30:47 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:



Please send me a billion ISK, you will get them back including 20% interest.
I can even make you a youtube video of it or say it in front of a crowd, if you want.

OF COURSE ... because they changed/killed games over and over again that
OF COURSE doesn't mean they will do it again this time,
because some guy who even works for CCP now says so ...

Two goons in CCP and a Goon as the head of CSM ...

You don't know how stupid you actually are, hu ?



Which games have goons killed?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2011-11-07 11:41:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
baltec1 wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:



Please send me a billion ISK, you will get them back including 20% interest.
I can even make you a youtube video of it or say it in front of a crowd, if you want.

OF COURSE ... because they changed/killed games over and over again that
OF COURSE doesn't mean they will do it again this time,
because some guy who even works for CCP now says so ...

Two goons in CCP and a Goon as the head of CSM ...

You don't know how stupid you actually are, hu ?



Which games have goons killed?



You're right, i should research this one first before actually posting it,
but although it's just hearsay i simply don't have a reason to believe otherwise.


Besides that, as he stated that they don't want to destroy the game,
there's definitely something behind it ... so not knowing what games
doesn't really change anything at all.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2011-11-07 11:47:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Richard Hammond II wrote:
a lot of space is empty cause its worthless from what I hear


pretty much this. Why oh why would any small corp or an alliance go somewhere to null where is nothing they can do .. oh maybe staring contest with an rock .. but thats it.

No carebears, no eyes, no eyes, no intel, no intel, no industry.
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2011-11-07 11:59:21 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
You don't know how stupid you actually are, hu ?

Richard Hammond II made a claim about the existence of a youtube video that shows the mittani saying specific things.

I pointed out that the only similar video I could think of doesn't feature the mittani at all and has the opposite message of what he claimed - so I asked him to back up his claim.

Don't see anything wrong with that.

I am absolutely sick of people "citing" evidence, studies, "scientists", ... without being able to name their source when put to the test.
pussnheels
Viziam
#35 - 2011-11-07 12:05:30 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:



Please send me a billion ISK, you will get them back including 20% interest.
I can even make you a youtube video of it or say it in front of a crowd, if you want.

OF COURSE ... because they changed/killed games over and over again that
OF COURSE doesn't mean they will do it again this time,
because some guy who even works for CCP now says so ...

Two goons in CCP and a Goon as the head of CSM ...

You don't know how stupid you actually are, hu ?



Which games have goons killed?


I might despise the Goons for what they represent and what they are but it is unfair to blame them for stalemate and the general state in nulsec alone
All the large alliances old and new are partly to blame aswell , nor does the current sov mechanism help much either

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Shivus Tao
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2011-11-07 12:20:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Shivus Tao
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Mortis vonShadow wrote:
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:

Otherwise we know Goons intention was from begin with destroying not the single players game it was about DESTROYING WHOLE GAMES



Uh oh, more conspiracy theories about the Goons trying to destroy EVE Online. You guys need to stop breeding.


and watching youtube right? Cause didnt mittens say that himself at a fanfest?
Pretend harder.
They were even in Star Trek Online. Did you know that? They turned that game from PVE only to open PVP lol. They were called Starfleet Dental.

But yeah. Youre right. They dont actively TRY to break games.
roflmao, YOURE the one that shouldnt breed bud


I must also clear something up about the STO incident. The game was not PVE only, it had a specific PVP zone, as well as PVP arenas. The goons were actually integral (admitted by the devolopers themselves) in highlighting an exploit with inviting captains of an opposing race to your bridge in that you could repeatedly kill them, disallowing them from leaving. This was originally incorporated for roleplay boarding actions (gotta love RPers)

Overall there was much mad and butthurt about the incident, but few understood the incident let cryptic patch a terrible oversight that should have been caught in beta. But anymore beta testers don't actually beta test, they just want to play the game and complain about the bad things.

Then my free month ran out and STO crashed and burned because Cryptic is terrible at making games.

The best way to fix a broken game is to push it past the breaking point. Goons should get lifelong beta access to every title as far as I'm concerned. Nothing better than a semi-organized group of so randum XD to break aspects of a game and show what needs to be fixed. Of course they should only be used as a mass data gathering tool in that endeavour.

I must say though. The degree of fear and hate regarding goons in eve is reminiscent of the Republican party's fear and hatred of Muslims, Homosexuals, Mormans, and Liberals (read anyone even slightly to the left of where the party stands) in America.
seany1212
M Y S T
#37 - 2011-11-07 12:21:57 UTC
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:
Very interessting replies so far and ...HAHAHAHA i take the others humoristic....But fact is...with the plan and coming stuff CCP is dong especially PI related it will drive many peoples back from lowsec and also 0.0 back in hisec ....cause why some will ask...simple fact..most the PI prodders are jsut NPC chars or otherwise related chars in small corps aren't hassling with the grudge building up a Custom office around a planet in low or 0.0 at all.

So...CCP's plan to get more peoples in low or 0.0 is failing in this part totally you all will see but if some not believe...wait for it getting life on TQ and suffer the consequences going all along.



What is it with all these n00b corps creating ship toasts? Roll Post with your main? Or go back to PI?

Null is getting fixed, the reason most of it is empty is because its protected by a larger alliance that has no use for it and to keep it sov'd would just be a waste of isk, the reason nobody else will use it is because one system would be pointless to develop seeing as how more than likely the larger alliance will just drop supers and have you out by morning. The super change will see it harder to deploy them and not being able to DD anything below capital size as far as im aware, hopefully resulting in more "Good Fights". That plus the fact that most 0.0 is worth virtually squat.
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#38 - 2011-11-07 12:34:02 UTC
CCP has said more than once that the coming expansion will be heavily null biased as they finally got the message (after 3 years!) that EHP grinds with 1-2 day long timers as only variation makes for really ****** mechanic.

Now if only they would tell us whether the goal has changed from :awesome: to :meh: (read: are they pulling a standard CCP) in a blog that contains more than pictures that have been available for over a year thinking that their silly logo somehow makes them new/relevant.

For a recently enlightened company that has promised to communicate better they still don't seem to understand what it means .. still filling the ether with marketing crapola with zero substance.
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#39 - 2011-11-07 12:36:47 UTC
Toasting in an EVE is dead thread.

I have more space likes than you. 

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#40 - 2011-11-07 13:10:27 UTC
Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:
Very interessting replies so far and ...HAHAHAHA i take the others humoristic....But fact is...with the plan and coming stuff CCP is dong especially PI related it will drive many peoples back from lowsec and also 0.0 back in hisec ....cause why some will ask...simple fact..most the PI prodders are jsut NPC chars or otherwise related chars in small corps aren't hassling with the grudge building up a Custom office around a planet in low or 0.0 at all.

So...CCP's plan to get more peoples in low or 0.0 is failing in this part totally you all will see but if some not believe...wait for it getting life on TQ and suffer the consequences going all along.




So people that really aren't doing anything relevant in null anyway?

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

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