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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-06-13 14:15:03 UTC
Get a vasectomy and don't tell her, then blame her when she can't get pregnant Pirate

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#22 - 2013-06-13 14:18:38 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Get a vasectomy and don't tell her, then blame her when she can't get pregnant Pirate


Do you put evilness instead of sugar in your morning coffee?

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#23 - 2013-06-13 14:19:58 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Get a vasectomy and don't tell her, then blame her when she can't get pregnant Pirate



LOL!

Hhahahaha

Best laugh I've had all day

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#24 - 2013-06-13 14:20:54 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Get a vasectomy and don't tell her, then blame her when she can't get pregnant Pirate



LOL!

Hhahahaha

Best laugh I've had all day



So THAT was Henry VIII's Trick ! Big smile

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-06-13 14:22:03 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Get a vasectomy and don't tell her, then blame her when she can't get pregnant Pirate


Do you put evilness instead of sugar in your morning coffee?


Nope, I was born that way Bear

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#26 - 2013-06-13 14:26:47 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Get a vasectomy and don't tell her, then blame her when she can't get pregnant Pirate


You made me choke on my coffee damn you!

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#27 - 2013-06-13 14:33:24 UTC
Better yet, get the snip and put your swimmers on ice, only way to get a lass pregnant then is if both parties consent through science.

Don't tell her till you agree to go for it, and if she comes to you telling you shes pregnant. ..

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-06-13 14:34:32 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
Better yet, get the snip and put your swimmers on ice, only way to get a lass pregnant then is if both parties consent through science.

Don't tell her till you agree to go for it, and if she comes to you telling you shes pregnant. ..


Science!

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#29 - 2013-06-13 14:36:52 UTC
I have two kids, and I think the family dynamics work out better than if we'd had just one. If just one, my wife would obsess about him and micromanage him to some extent. Too much pressure on him, that would be no good. With two, she doesn't have time.

At the same time, having two somehow takes some pressure off of the parents. It becomes more of a free-for-all, every man for himself. Once you have unfixable chaos, you can just accept it and relax. You don't feel constant pressure for everything to always be perfect in the home.

I hear what people are saying about not bringing more humans into the world. Well, if you don't do it, somebody else will. Somebody who may or may not be as responsible, aware, and intelligent about kid-rearing as you are. Smile
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#30 - 2013-06-13 14:43:48 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:


I hear what people are saying about not bringing more humans into the world. Well, if you don't do it, somebody else will. Somebody who may or may not be as responsible, aware, and intelligent about kid-rearing as you are. Smile



http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2012/05/01/octomom-nadya-suleman-is-bankrupt-considering-porn-so-what-happens-to-the-kids/

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#31 - 2013-06-13 14:59:37 UTC
Just a little warning from someone that works in the health and wellness field. Vasectomies are not 100% foolproof contraception. Whatever technique is used, there is always the possibility the body will force it lose and allow the vasa deferentia to reattach. So do not ever let a doctor tell you that it is 100% effective and always get at least two post surgical ejaculation evaluations to test if sperm is not present, before having unprotected sex. Also, do not have sex or oral gratification too early as the act of sex can disrupt the procedure.
Malaclypse Muscaria
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-06-13 15:02:32 UTC
If you have to come and ask here, don't do it.

Doing it because your wife is nagging you to, or because you think the more people to take care of you when you are old the better, are the wrong reasons to do so.

Only do it if you genuinely and assuredly want to welcome a new human into your life, take good responsibility and care of his/her education and upbringing, and are willing to undertake the necessary sacrifices and changes in your life/style. (basically, that's why I've never had any children myself)
Niko medes
Freeman Technologies
#33 - 2013-06-13 15:06:15 UTC
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
I don't have any, but sure hope to one day. I'm a few years older than you.

End of the day only you can answer the question of whether you want more children.

But I'm guessing should you opt to have, say, 4 more kids... when you're surrounded by loving family in your twilight years you'll not be regretting the decision.

Remember, you might have to take care of them today, but someday if everything works out as it should, they'll take care of you.

So, do you want one child that can only afford the cheap-o nursing home or do you want 5 kids that combined can buy you space in an assisted-living dream come to life?



Never thought of it that way Smile
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#34 - 2013-06-13 15:20:27 UTC
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:


So, do you want one child that can only afford the cheap-o nursing home or do you want 5 kids that combined can buy you space in an assisted-living dream come to life?



What a lazy, selfish life that is suggested here.

Take care of yourself and leave the younger generations to do their thing.

Having kids as a collective of resources for you to extract financial succor from is a terrible approach to life.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#35 - 2013-06-13 17:20:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Whatever technique is used, there is always the possibility the body will force it lose and allow the vasa deferentia to reattach. So do not ever let a doctor tell you that it is 100% effective and always get at least two post surgical ejaculation evaluations to test if sperm is not present, before having unprotected sex.


Dang, those vasa defentia are stubborn, aren't they?

My friend Rainbow (Texan mechanic guy with a lot of tattoos) had to do those post-surgical evaluations. The female nurse offered him two options:
a) Go to the restroom over there and collect a sample. There are some magazines in there that will help.
b) We have a device we can attach to you. It runs an electrical current through your privates that will make you ejaculate.

Somehow neither option appealed much to Rainbow. So he came up with option c), which was to wait until his wife's lunch hour. She brought the van around and they collected the sample in the parking lot.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#36 - 2013-06-13 17:23:12 UTC
Kult Altol wrote:
I'm 16 years old and have 4 kids. Just kidding. Big smile I'm 27 years and already have one daughter. Wife is bugging me to have another one. Anyone out there have more than one kid at my age?

Hell, I didn't even get married 'til I was 29!

Biggest advantage of having kids earlier is you have more energy to chase them about. Second biggest advantage is having energy to go out and enjoy yourselves once they're old enough to take care of themselves.

Downside? You're typically not making as much as older parents, so finances are tighter. Your relationship with your spouse may not be as settled and stable yet, either - depending on when you got married.

Having kids close in age to each other has advantages and disadvantages, too - two kids in diapers is a PAIN. OTOH, kids close in age play better together. OTOOH, older kid can help care for younger kid, or at least isn't as much of a care burden.

Really, there's no right way to do things, so long as they reach the age of majority alive, healthy, and able to cope with the real world. Make that goal, and you've officially "Done Good."



(We waited five years for our first, and they're six years apart. Works OK for us.)
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#37 - 2013-06-13 17:36:59 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:


So, do you want one child that can only afford the cheap-o nursing home or do you want 5 kids that combined can buy you space in an assisted-living dream come to life?



What a lazy, selfish life that is suggested here.

Take care of yourself and leave the younger generations to do their thing.

Having kids as a collective of resources for you to extract financial succor from is a terrible approach to life.
You realize that there are entire - ancient, large, and successful - cultures that operate along those lines, even in todays modern economies?

You just crapped on a large part of Asia's cultural heritage/social contract/baggage.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#38 - 2013-06-13 17:47:17 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:


Dang, those vasa defentia are stubborn, aren't they?




It's definitely been a day for that kind of sentence. Big smile

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#39 - 2013-06-13 17:51:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:


So, do you want one child that can only afford the cheap-o nursing home or do you want 5 kids that combined can buy you space in an assisted-living dream come to life?



What a lazy, selfish life that is suggested here.

Take care of yourself and leave the younger generations to do their thing.

Having kids as a collective of resources for you to extract financial succor from is a terrible approach to life.
You realize that there are entire - ancient, large, and successful - cultures that operate along those lines, even in todays modern economies?

You just crapped on a large part of Asia's cultural heritage/social contract/baggage.



Yeah, and look at all the exploited Indian and Pakistani and Bangladesh women in those very cultures who slave themselves unto death-by-collapsed-factory labor, in order to keep grandma comfy.......and probably not by thier choice either. IT's just another way to exploit humans.

Just because 'many cultures' practice it does not make it a good idea.

edit: In fact in India it's pretty much now considered OK to publicly **** women. That's the end-game of this 'culture'.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#40 - 2013-06-13 17:53:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:


So, do you want one child that can only afford the cheap-o nursing home or do you want 5 kids that combined can buy you space in an assisted-living dream come to life?



What a lazy, selfish life that is suggested here.

Take care of yourself and leave the younger generations to do their thing.

Having kids as a collective of resources for you to extract financial succor from is a terrible approach to life.



The point I believe she was trying to make is many will end up in a situation where we will need much assistance. That is unless we have the cahones to finish the job ourselves, which is my preferred option. Trust me, I see people on a daily basis who have been abandoned by their children. It is not a pretty sight. So, just because you have children does not mean they will help you, so do not bank on that ever, but to say that needing your children's assistance is selfish is not completely true.

EDIT: One could even say that just having one child is selfish as it puts the burden on just one individual. The mother of my child will have to deal with the end life of her mother, father, aunt, and uncle, all by herself in all practical sense and purpose.
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