EVE General Discussion

Here we still are. Not much has changed. And the same players who found the effects annoying last week still find them annoying today. I'd say the camera swing does a good enough job of imposing itself on people that there's no need for demagoguery or 'inflaming the masses'.

In much better news: I'd forgotten how good some of William Gibson's stuff is. I recommend it. Lem has his moments too.

I wonder when we'll get an update from the developers.

I have not been able to reproduce it, but _once_ I was able to travel the whole length of the star gate warp looking at it from on the side instead of the down the tube approach. Much more pleasant than feeling like going down the drain head first.

Your last sentence pretty much describes my EVE career.

To be fair, Ranger did say that he was for ccp remedying the situation for those who become ill from it.

It has to be fast the jump between system is a fast process, and the animation is a hundred times better to what we had before.

Thanks you so much for your response; it means a lot to know that CCP is looking into this and taking our issues into consideration.

Personally, I have experienced mild nasuea (not so bad that I feel a need to vomit, but enough to make me feel ill and uncomfortable) after viewing the jump animation a few times in sequence. I would say that the wild swinging and repositioning of the camera is only part of the problem; the fast and twisting movement is another factor, as well as the choppy and halting animation (I have yet to see this play smoothly, it always stutters its way through). In order to fix this, you would need to 1)stop taking control of the camera, 2) change the jump animation to straight directional travel and adjust the speed 3) remove or reduce the "cloud" effect so that there are fewer reference points indicating speed to the eye, and 4) reduce resource needs so that the animation plays smoothly.

However, to me, the nasuea is a minor complaint compared to my primary issue. I suffer from migraines, and like epilepsy, migraines can be triggered by certain light effects. The flashing lights and other visual effects in this animation have caused me severe pain. I've experienced similar problems with some flourescent lighting, they flicker at a frequency I am sensitive to. It doesn't happen every time, but often enough that I am very wary of gate jumps, and try to avoid them. Part of the problem is that the headaches don't usually trigger immediately, and often take a little bit of time to set in. So I may go through a few jumps thinking I got past it all right, and then I'll be in agony a short while later. Once there, the migraines last for hours.

Can I look away or open another window? Sure, that's what I try to do. But it is annoying to have to do so, and frankly, not safe, especially if I'm in low or null, as my attention is away for a few moments after the jump.

My personal health issues aside though, I have to say that this animation just seems all around bad. It lags, and seems to induce more system lag. It adds time to gate transitions, making travel even more long and tedious. It's disorienting and immersion breaking; in all of EVE it is the only situation I am aware of where the game is in first person perspective. On its own, it looks great, but after five jumps, the wow factor wears off. After 10 jumps, it is mildy annoying as you begin to resent the time it is taking. After 15-20 jumps, you're sick of seeing it over and over.

If it's true that this animation has been coded in such a way that it is impossible to reverse or turn off, then I have to say that this is truly horrible design, and I have to wonder what you (CCP) were thinking. Especially in light of all the feedback received after this feature hit the test server, why would you ever consider rolling out a change like this without a way to reverse it? It makes me wonder why you even have a test server, if you refuse to listen to the feedback and at least take precautions based on it.

I have a couple of months left on my subscription, so at the very least I will be around until then. I may just be updating skillls mostly, depending on how this plays out. However, if at the end of that time, this animation is still in effect with no option to disable it, then I will have to cancel my account. Not because I want to, and not out of some rage or protest, as I really enjoy this game, but because a purely decorative feature completely independent of the gameplay has made it too physically painful to continue playing.

I said:

That there are a small number of people who are actually experiencing discomfort.

These people are those that are extremely susceptible to motion sickness, as the effect isn't over the top compared to many popular games.

That adjustments should be made to the new effect to accomodate them (which incidentally coincide with yours).

That some of the people in this thread (not all) claiming physical distress are actually doing so purely for dramtic effect.

That more than a few people spamming this thread simply prefer the old one, and are using your distress to further their own agenda.

That it is unlikely that an off switch is possible without a costly and time consuming rewrite of some base game mechanics, not that it wasn't good idea (it's just likely impractical at this time). Choice is always good, but not always immediately practical. What is much more likely is that some of the elements that are causing the distress may be modified to solve the important issue, the physical distress.


That's about as clear as I can make my point of view. While you may not agree with all points, I believe it's a pretty fair and accurate assessment.

OMG.

A "small number of people" with an "agenda" are "blowing the issue out of proportion". Condescending much?

Also, you claim to know EVE code better than the devs. Your poasting is terrible.

That being said, I don't see how the following pseudocode could be "expensive and time-consuming" to implement:

if (show_animation == true) {
show_nauseating_animation();

} else {
show_progress_bar();

}

It simply isn't hard.

+1 for an option. It's a nice animation, but not when you're jumping with 500 people.

I imagine many people feel this same discomfort, and I simply see no other way for CCP but to work hard and make this animation fully optional.
For me its simply become too annoying. I keep my map open when jumping, or look away, but as you said- this can only continue for a short time, and must be fixed by CCP.