EVE General Discussion

In terms of timing, it looks like a combination of the new character generator and the reintroduction of retali boxes.

F2P is a business model first and foremost. The reason games go F2P is so that they make more money. more money means more employees, more game content, better servers.

EVE already has in place all of the most common F2P elements as it was realized a long time ago that monthly sub MMO's don't make that much money. the AUR store and the PLEX system are all things that are made to supplement CCP's income and allow them to give us more content.

Basically the only reason EVE isn't F2P already is because either A: the AUR store and PLEX don't make enough to cover the sub fees or B: the current revenue of the game with BOTH is not sufficient enough to warrant removing one souce.

i would like to see EVE go F2P (potentially as is) only because it would mean they were making enough money to remove a source of revenue

going F2P would drastically open up the playerbase, and for every bittervet crybaby "all these darn kids are ruinin mah spaceships with their hootin" there are 5 people who have been wanting to play this game but haven't simply because of the sub fee.

and of course, once the playerbase opens up, that measn even MORE money for CCP and more content.

TL:DR

this game needs more players. Going F2P will bring in more players. going F2P does not mean going pay2win or anything else and if done right could be done with what is already in place. if executed correctly everybody wins.

Thinking that more money leads to more content is naive.

Usually more money simply means more profits for the investors.

And CCP making more money actually lead to them buying White Wolf and start developing a completely different vampire MMO.

edit: In fact a lot of the new 'empty' CQ & avatar content that came with Incarna was actually pushed by CCP back then as a stepping stone for the engine for World of Darkness. So being able to fund the creation of a second MMO even ended up with even less content for the first MMO.

I see more people online now than I did in 2007. Maybe it's you?

Eve is f2p if you want to trade isk. I prefer to pay monthly so :p

Why, exactly does this game need "more players"? It's survived for 10 years, it's still steadily growing and hell, the servers sometimes struggle handling the players it has.

I've asked people who say what you said before this and never gotten an answer, please enlighten me.

Setting aside the many issues that have already been brought up by others, how exactly do those who want Eve to be f2p envision CCP resolving multiple accounts?

Do they tell people with more than one account "sorry, only one account per player now, you'll have to biomass all the characters on your other accounts".?

Or would we be seeing thousands of users online using programs like isboxer to run hundreds of accounts?

Then there's the botting issues.

No. f2p will not work for Eve.

If you are talking about that massive increase in November 2010, that's actually when I could begin tracking characters in real-time, before that date it was not possible to track characters when they were created.

/c

Anything before that date is just random pilots I've come across really. Currently there's about 8 million characters created that I do not have in my database, compared to the 4m+ I know of...

i would like more people to play EVE. its an amazing game with even more amazing potential with a dedicated dev staff who genuinely seem to care about their product as more than just revenue.

if all it took for this to happen was ship re-coloring through the AUR store or ship hats or some other stupid gimmick (or nothing at all) that you could completely ignore to open up this game to the numerous people i know personally who would love to play the game but can't/won't because of the sub fee. I'd be perfectly fine with that.

all those people you know are scrubs and should just stick with whatever dogshite f2p game they are playing.