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P4 PI prices tanking across the board

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-12 18:24:30 UTC
Was wondering what is adjusting the market downward. Not being savvy in the areas of production utilizing P4 materials I thought I would ask the community. Any ideas?

Don't ban me, bro!

Adunh Slavy
#2 - 2013-06-12 20:18:11 UTC
Ice changes, summer

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Airto TLA
Acorn's Wonder Bars
#3 - 2013-06-12 20:25:13 UTC
Ice, changes, summer, racial meta materials screwing up the T2 production chains
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#4 - 2013-06-12 23:03:06 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Was wondering what is adjusting the market downward. Not being savvy in the areas of production utilizing P4 materials I thought I would ask the community. Any ideas?


Speculators got speculated.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#5 - 2013-06-12 23:25:05 UTC
Never paid attention to P4, rather, mainly P2. Prices for the P2 have been on a slow downward trend as the subscriber base increases and more get into PI.

Otherwise I haven't seen any big changes up or down to P2 in the last 6 months even after the patch.

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-06-13 12:12:14 UTC
But P2 prices are buffered by fuel production. Except for 2 P4 products that aren't worth the components they're built from, the rest have a hook nose decline that started with Odyssey.

Don't ban me, bro!

Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#7 - 2013-06-13 13:52:01 UTC
Honestly I think CCP just got fed up with the poor **** talkers boasting how smart they are and how stupid every one else was and decided to shake the whole place up.

From a more scientific point of view, I would not expect less.

Iv bin watching several key items and iv noticed the supply taking a good drop, with the new changes it looks like CCP may have knowingly or unknowingly saved PVE from becoming extinct due to heavy and irresponsible over manipulation.

to add insult to injury, being in the ship market myself, im seeing a heavy trend of ships buy orders being filled about 3 times as fast as it usually was for the past 2 years, my opinion: people are building ships in lowsec and then moving them to highsec to fill highsec buy orders or competing with highsec.

Im definitely seeing at-least 4.5ISK per unit of trit , so yes there is heavy pressure from that vector as-well, it might not be extreme but its definitely being felt and its getting stronger.

Invention, the prices are taking dives for invention costs hurting the older inventors but not enough to make any one stop, drop rates have increased, telling you first hand after watching my buy orders in decryptors being broken through over the course of 3 days, over and over, simply being filled en mass.

The gales of change are upon us, tread carefully.
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-06-19 04:47:19 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
Honestly I think CCP just got fed up with the poor **** talkers boasting how smart they are and how stupid every one else was and decided to shake the whole place up.

From a more scientific point of view, I would not expect less.

Iv bin watching several key items and iv noticed the supply taking a good drop, with the new changes it looks like CCP may have knowingly or unknowingly saved PVE from becoming extinct due to heavy and irresponsible over manipulation.

to add insult to injury, being in the ship market myself, im seeing a heavy trend of ships buy orders being filled about 3 times as fast as it usually was for the past 2 years, my opinion: people are building ships in lowsec and then moving them to highsec to fill highsec buy orders or competing with highsec.

Im definitely seeing at-least 4.5ISK per unit of trit , so yes there is heavy pressure from that vector as-well, it might not be extreme but its definitely being felt and its getting stronger.

Invention, the prices are taking dives for invention costs hurting the older inventors but not enough to make any one stop, drop rates have increased, telling you first hand after watching my buy orders in decryptors being broken through over the course of 3 days, over and over, simply being filled en mass.

The gales of change are upon us, tread carefully.


The gales of change, indeed. Tread boldly! Big smile
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#9 - 2013-06-25 01:59:52 UTC
Smohq Anmirorz wrote:


The gales of change, indeed. Tread boldly! Big smile


To date iv tried to rally in many directions, they all point to weakness on the buyer front.