Warfare & Tactics

How do you protect your implants from being destroyed while exploring the fun world of PVP?
I figure it's got something to do with having a jump clone, but for the life of me I can't figure out how it works.

The couple of times I've tried getting a jump clone, I was told that the faction controlling that station doesn't like me well enough.

Thanks. That's what I was looking for.

Yea, I learned two lessons from that.
1) Don't go PVPing with your implants in.
2) Don't try to jump through the gate. Go somewhere else.

Live and learn.

Thanks for the tip. I'll do that!

this ^

Also, on the matter of jump clones:

Jump clones can be handy for managing different sets of implants used for different purposes, as well as for moving long distances quickly. If you have scattered multiple jump clones in different systems, you can travel to any station with medical services and, once per day, jump to one of your jump clones. Your current body gets left behind, with all of its implants, as a jump clone in the station you were at when you jumped.

Jump clones require standing of 8.0 or better with the faction that owns the station in which you want to initially make a jump clone, which is NOT the same as jumping to a clone. Jumping to a clone leaves behind your body as a jump clone in the station you were in, assuming that station has medical services, but you do NOT have to have 8.0 standing with that station's corporation just to jump.

What a lot of the descriptions of jump clones don't make totally clear is that once you've made a jump clone you can move it to ANY station with medical services by jumping into it and going somewhere else, then jumping out a day later (since using jump clones is something you can only do once per day.)

So, if you happen to be running a ton of missions with one particular faction, and have your standing up to 8.0, you can make a jump clone in one of their stations, travel some distance away to a station with which you do not have standings but which does have medical services, jump into your new jump clone at the 8.0 standing station (which leaves your prior body, with all implants, as a jump clone at the lower-standing station), make a NEW jump clone at the 8.0 station, travel to a third place, jump back, etc etc. until you have as many jump clones (not counting the body you're in) as your level of the Infomorph Psychology skill.

If you want to have clones with different implants, you make them, jump into them from elsewhere, then install the implants you like, and jump out a day later. It's relatively straightforward to, say, have a jump clone with probing and scanning implants, one with combat implants for low sec, and one with cheaper implants for null sec. The only caveat is that you can only jump once per day, so you can only switch implant sets every 24 hours.

You can, if you like, make all your jump clones by traveling to up to 5 different stations with medical services with which you have 8.0 standing and making one each. There's a corporation called Estel Arador Corp Services which you can join for a short time to do this. They have high standings with a very large number of factions in the game, and you get the benefit of their standings. Because of the way corporate standings work, as long as you leave their corporation within 7 days, your own standings won't harm theirs.

Here's their thread:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8574

Well, I'm already at 7.87 with Caldari Navy, so not much more to go to 8. And if I'm reading this correctly, I can just make a clone in one of their stations, then take it where ever I need to that has a medical facility.

Getting my standing up will give give me something to do till I finish training the skills I want for pvp.

Thanks again for all the input!!

Losing implants is not really that big a deal. If you live somewhere dangerous...like say null sec.... and you pvp then you fly in a clone with no implants or you use cheap ones like +2s. Either way you will lose pods in null sec. You wont lose them every time. But no amount of spamming the jump button helps if you are fighting in a bubble or a sea of bubbles which is generally the case in large scale null sec fights. Your best bet for saving the pod is to align out to a celesteal and hope the fight keeps going long enough for you to make it out of the bubbles and warp off somewhere. Sometimes this happens and sometimes the fight is over too quick.

Jump clones are based upon standings. If you run missions and you train the appropriate skill then you can create multiple clones at a station where you have the appropriate standing. Its been a while but I think its like 7.0 or something with the npc corp or faction controlling the station. If you live in null sec then standings can be set by the owner of the outpost. Folks who are blue generally have the ability to put in a jump clone.

Implants are part of your PVP modules. Stacking up various implant set bonuses and hardwiring bonuses can be incredibly potent, and once you learn to warp your pod out reliably you needn't worry about losing them all that much (if sober).

PVPing with no impants would be similar to PVPing with no rigs in your ship.

I do think it's best to have multiple clones with different implant sets, and to avoid it altogether if you're bad at getting your pod out of fights or if you roam null-sec.

And, just as a warning, I'm currently rebuilding one of my implant sets because roaming low-sec while mildly intoxicated is stupid. They do get pricey.