EVE General Discussion

wait what? Thats like a Goon sayin that.... and makes as much sense

There are places for people who don't like concord. Low security space and also nullsec ring any bells? I thought someone used to be in a pirate corp and wanted low sec space fixed. Why focus on high security space? Have you given up on lowsec? Weren't you meant to represent lowsec players and fix lowsec or something? It's obviously crap, if you have to come to highsec to look for fights.

I never get tired of the "HIG HSEC PVP IS NOT PVP" scrubs. Please, keep your terrible posts coming.

You see, what you describe would be perfectly fine if everywhere was null sec. However, the game has had high sec, low sec, and null sec since the beginning. It was designed that way from the start.

Apparently, what you are pissed about is high sec actually having the broken parts of the game mechanics fixed so that it is what it was intended to be (war dec issues notwithstanding). What you claim, in order for your reasoning to stand, is to want for there to be no high sec at all. In which case I wouldn't have a problem with your argument, because then everyone would know what they were in for.

However, unless high sec is removed from the game then what you are rallying for is the ability to gank players who are inexperienced and could not possibly know about all the holes in the game design. You really think that people are supposed to just know, through osmosis, that some people with criminal minds have found a way to subvert the game design in order to destroy their ships...which being a new player means they now have to start over from the beginning. Now to be clear, I am talking specifically about new players...and the game's seeming inability to keep them playing. Gank all the bots you want, I'm all for it.

Your Neanderthal type of thinking is counterproductive at best. If the world worked according to your philosophy we would have never gotten out of the stone ages. And by the way, you are the one who started the comparison with Eve and the real world, although I admit I misunderstood the point you were making. Now that I do understand it though, you need to understand that the world view that you are promulgating is the same as trickle down, supply side economics...the "every man for himself looking after his own best interest" Ayn Rand bullshit philosophy that has destroyed the global economy. This is a proven FACT. The evidence is all around you. "Personal Responsibility" is a term best used when describing people who make the tough decision to "do the right thing" in the face of personal sacrifice, not when it is used as a mask to hide the nefarious goals of attempting to fulfill a never ending greed that some people never seem to be able to fill, regardless of how many people suffer at their hands through their scams and other nefarious activities. I know people are getting tired of it, but once again, you, sir, have a problem that you need to have a better understanding of...Sociopathy.

Mmmmmmmmmm.

Griefer tears are the tastiest of all.

How is that related to the fact that the mechanics are broken.
Not to mention that some people dont have time, or doesnt find lowsec or 0,0 fun. Both parts apply for me.

All the "arguments" are basically DEAL WITH IT.

Again never said they where broken I said they where flawed. In actuality my only issue was with Insurance on concord deaths, which personally I believed was a flawed system. The changes they made allowing "Dec Shields" I actually think is a bad choice, but then again the whole war dec system is crap.

While the reasons for people choosing High-Sec Pvp over Low or 0.0 is their own and some are valid. However that doesn't mean Highsec should be left open for easy Pvp. If anything it should be harder to Pvp and yield a lot higher consequences then anywhere else. Currently this is not really the case. Ganking is more prevalent now then ever because of having insurance to fall back, on as well as even the -10 aspect isn't really a issue due to SS Orca providing ships and alt ship swaping. War Decs are a joke in the fact that cost is laughable and restrictions are almost non existent.

Curious on what your reasons for saying lowsec isn't fun in comparison to high sec? From a Pvpers standpoint.