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How much of a hit is high sec manufacturing taking with the huge buff to null sec industry?

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#21 - 2013-06-05 10:23:55 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Vince Snetterton wrote:


The plan is to make null completely independent of high sec


No it isn't


Right, and we are supposed to believe you.
Guess you don't think any of us read your multiple attacks on high sec industry in your CSM campaign.

You and the lead goon rep on the CSM must just be giggling now, plotting what you can do next to high sec.


Oh well that is totally true.

But the 100% independent thing is still wrong.

Please do continue to tinfoil and rage.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#22 - 2013-06-05 10:26:08 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Null will still need to import large quantities of low-ends from highsec


But I thought this was supposed to be a boon to null industry?!??!!?!

Huh, go figure....


It is in the sense that it's far better than it was. It's just not anything remotely like "independence", nor, despite Vince's ravings, will it ever be.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Firvain
Wildly Inappropriate
Wildly Inappropriate.
#23 - 2013-06-12 10:01:57 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Null will still need to import large quantities of low-ends from highsec


But I thought this was supposed to be a boon to null industry?!??!!?!

Huh, go figure....


It is in the sense that it's far better than it was. It's just not anything remotely like "independence", nor, despite Vince's ravings, will it ever be.


Please explain how it is far better now? I do lots of producing in 0.0 and i buy plenty of minerals locally, but i still have to import just as much as minerals befor odysee as after. Not a single thing has changed. Well thats not entirely true, I have to import alot fo mexallon now to compensate for the bigger quantities of trit and pye my miners sell to me.

So all in all, its gotten worse really as I have to dedicate whole JF trips to just haul mexallon which is highly ineffeciant compared to compressed minerals.
Markus Navarro
Osmon Integrated Robotics
#24 - 2013-06-12 21:26:43 UTC
Firvain wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Null will still need to import large quantities of low-ends from highsec


But I thought this was supposed to be a boon to null industry?!??!!?!

Huh, go figure....


It is in the sense that it's far better than it was. It's just not anything remotely like "independence", nor, despite Vince's ravings, will it ever be.


Please explain how it is far better now? I do lots of producing in 0.0 and i buy plenty of minerals locally, but i still have to import just as much as minerals befor odysee as after. Not a single thing has changed. Well thats not entirely true, I have to import alot fo mexallon now to compensate for the bigger quantities of trit and pye my miners sell to me.

So all in all, its gotten worse really as I have to dedicate whole JF trips to just haul mexallon which is highly ineffeciant compared to compressed minerals.


So, you are complaining that it's worse now that you must import 1 material instead of 3, and you somehow miss how this increase you actual efficiency?

I tought that the whole nullbaby appelation was for fun, but i've come to doubt it in this thread.

I sell drones and drones accessories.
Firvain
Wildly Inappropriate
Wildly Inappropriate.
#25 - 2013-06-12 22:24:26 UTC
Markus Navarro wrote:
Firvain wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Null will still need to import large quantities of low-ends from highsec


But I thought this was supposed to be a boon to null industry?!??!!?!

Huh, go figure....


It is in the sense that it's far better than it was. It's just not anything remotely like "independence", nor, despite Vince's ravings, will it ever be.


Please explain how it is far better now? I do lots of producing in 0.0 and i buy plenty of minerals locally, but i still have to import just as much as minerals befor odysee as after. Not a single thing has changed. Well thats not entirely true, I have to import alot fo mexallon now to compensate for the bigger quantities of trit and pye my miners sell to me.

So all in all, its gotten worse really as I have to dedicate whole JF trips to just haul mexallon which is highly ineffeciant compared to compressed minerals.


So, you are complaining that it's worse now that you must import 1 material instead of 3, and you somehow miss how this increase you actual efficiency?

I tought that the whole nullbaby appelation was for fun, but i've come to doubt it in this thread.


instead of hauling 1 jf full of railguns which gives me 60 odd mexallon and 700 mil trit and other goodies. I have to now import just 35 mil mexallon. Because if I dont i have massive amounts of excess trit and pye that are absolutly worthless with the amount of mexallon that gets mined.

So yeah in the end there is actully more hauling involved
Airto TLA
Acorn's Wonder Bars
#26 - 2013-06-12 22:46:40 UTC
Firvain wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Null will still need to import large quantities of low-ends from highsec


But I thought this was supposed to be a boon to null industry?!??!!?!

Huh, go figure....


It is in the sense that it's far better than it was. It's just not anything remotely like "independence", nor, despite Vince's ravings, will it ever be.


Please explain how it is far better now? I do lots of producing in 0.0 and i buy plenty of minerals locally, but i still have to import just as much as minerals befor odysee as after. Not a single thing has changed. Well thats not entirely true, I have to import alot fo mexallon now to compensate for the bigger quantities of trit and pye my miners sell to me.

So all in all, its gotten worse really as I have to dedicate whole JF trips to just haul mexallon which is highly ineffeciant compared to compressed minerals.


Just curious, if this is true would not the value of Mex and therefore Gneiss go up significantly in areas that production is occuring?
Mexallon is pretty small, I know you can put 10+ ABCs worth of it in a tech 1 hauler and ship it from a few systems over as opposed to trit you have to risk a Frieghter to haul that much trit. .
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