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Undeniable Chuck
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#41 - 2013-06-11 15:59:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Undeniable Chuck
Echo Echoplex wrote:
I've spent days reading up on strategy and it all looks like this to me:

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".


This is pretty much the best description of being a newbie in Eve that I have ever read. Its always great seeing people ask for advice and get huge bodies of text full of terminology that newbies would have no idea what 90% of it meant. Good luck with the learning curve, its fun!

Edit: I saw you are a RL female. Lucky you. Join corps, get on voice coms, and use that to rob neckbeards blind. Rinse and repeat. They will literally line up to give you free stuff and isk.
Echo Echoplex
#42 - 2013-06-11 17:04:15 UTC
Ace Menda wrote:
Welcome to EVE.

Speak to you soon as I saw you in my channel briefly =)

Hey there Ace!

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

Echo Echoplex
#43 - 2013-06-11 17:13:59 UTC
Rynn Vendran wrote:
Echo Echoplex wrote:


"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".



OMGLMAO this is probably the forum quote of the year! Perfect and adorable! Great attitude too, you're off to an excellent start. Now get out there and space like a boss!

Lol

Undeniable Chuck wrote:


This is pretty much the best description of being a newbie in Eve that I have ever read. Its always great seeing people ask for advice and get huge bodies of text full of terminology that newbies would have no idea what 90% of it meant. Good luck with the learning curve, its fun!

Edit: I saw you are a RL female. Lucky you. Join corps, get on voice coms, and use that to rob neckbeards blind. Rinse and repeat. They will literally line up to give you free stuff and isk.

This one will really get you both laughing:

Yesterday I opened my skill queue to reorder and I *think* I inadvertently drug all the rest of the queue into one skill, ie: Frigate 5. Now it shows 8 more days to train and a total of some 500K+ SP. Shocked I also can't train anything else now because none of them now fit in the queue.

Roll Yeah, I know.

How do I undo this mess? I can't find a way to open the Frigate 5 and drag the rest back out. Lol

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

Sally Isagar
Doomheim
#44 - 2013-06-12 10:04:50 UTC
Echo Echoplex wrote:

This one will really get you both laughing:

Yesterday I opened my skill queue to reorder and I *think* I inadvertently drug all the rest of the queue into one skill, ie: Frigate 5. Now it shows 8 more days to train and a total of some 500K+ SP. Shocked I also can't train anything else now because none of them now fit in the queue.

Roll Yeah, I know.

How do I undo this mess? I can't find a way to open the Frigate 5 and drag the rest back out. Lol


If you drag long skill to the beginning of the queue, it will push other skills out from the queue. If you want to train something that's shorter than 24 hrs, drag it to the beginning of the queue.
Ekhss Nihilo
The Night Watchmen
Goonswarm Federation
#45 - 2013-06-12 18:23:30 UTC
Echo Echoplex wrote:
I just subbed a couple of days ago (hi everyone) after a 2 wk. trial but only a few hours of that used, so I have zero idea what I'm doing. Meanwhile I've been reading, reading, reading to try and lessen the learning curve, and have seen so many Disillusioned-I-Quit posts from people who've seemingly played quite awhile and I just don't get it.

I can see quitting for various reasons: time management problems, frustration with the learning curve/yourself and your own inabilities, eventual boredom, lack of money, and yes, even personal conflict with the politics of the game, but what I don't understand is quitting because the game proved itself to be what it was when you signed on. In a game that's remarkably complex it's the one aspect that seems so simple and transparent.

I have no idea what I want to do or be yet and I won't be surprised if I rage or pittykitty when I get scammed, betrayed, podded repeatedly, etc. but I see this game essentially as an rpg for every person who plays it. Even if you spend your time trading out of game, you're playing that role. You can play the role of a benevolent and helpful pilot who aspires to elevate and educate, you can play the role of the biggest as*hat who ever walked the face of the earth, you can play it as anything in between, or even both simultaneously. It's the wild wild west and the civil war and a a social experiment and a sandbox and an mmorpg and a rpg and and a fps all in one.

What keeps me enthralled with the whole idea of this game isn't even the gameplay, it's the people behind it and the notion that the turd who pods me and laffs is just as likely to be somebody I become good pals with after I dry my tears as he is to become my mortal enemy. The troll who talks exclusively memespeak may just as easily be a lawyer with a wife and 4 kids, and the acerbic, feminist-leaning activist may be a basement dwelling neckbeard with special needs. I've never seen an online game or environment with the level of intelligence or complexity or variety of this one, and I'm not talking about gameplay, I'm talking about the players themselves.

The way I see it is, I've (hopefully) set myself up to win no matter if/when/why I ever decide to stop playing so long as I don't forget why I loved it when I signed up. I spent my few first trial days logging, standing in CQs, staring into space like a catatonic, being completely overwhelmed, and logging off. I play on a Mac and none of my keys work for the game. I missed earning the extra isk for completing a mission within 2 hours because I couldn't find the asteroid belt. My skill queue probably makes zero sense whatsoever.

I've spent days reading up on strategy and it all looks like this to me:

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".

And I love this game already. What is wrong with me? i'm a female too, and I thought about hiding it but eff that, and if I ever alt-up they'll be female as well. Now if I could just find the skill book the NPC agent swears is in my P&P folder. Even the agents lie! Lol

You're also going to have to get that phlogiston transmogrification skill trained to at least level 8. There's no other way you'll be able to gark the bip.

Seriously, it is a bit overwhelming at first. I did all the tutorials and part of the Bloodstained Stars epic arc before joining a corp. That's the key. EVE as a solo enterprise isn't sustainable for long. Joining up with other like-minded folks is what really makes the game work. There are a lot of new player friendly corps out there. The one I joined, Ideal Machine, is a relatively small outfit that offers a lot of variety and is very helpful to the new player. We do mining, PvE, PvP, manufacturing and invention among other things. Lots of help available to the new member.

PvP training for example. We do exercises that train the new player in the strategy and tactics of fleet operations. First time out on one of those, I gained knowledge that would have come at a very high cost otherwise. The learning never stops. By my lights, that's great fun.

There's still plenty of room for solo action, but running with a corpmate or two really enhances the experience - and your survivability.

Thing to remember about the EVE universe: danger lurks everywhere. And that's part of the attraction.

Good luck out there and fly safe. Take nothing for granted.

"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180)

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#46 - 2013-06-12 18:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
For what it is worth, I happily accept questions and such via EVE-mail. I've also lost count how many times I've helped people dispatch Dagan.

Post leading into the rabbit-hole of links:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2155469#post2155469

Few more links:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2026502#post2026502
Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-06-12 18:44:37 UTC
EVE is really not that complicated. EVE jargon is incredibly complicated.

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.

ISD Arooga
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2013-06-12 19:26:56 UTC
Welcome to EvE and I am glad you like the game :)

STAR Executive

ISD STAR (Support Training and Resources)

Helping new players undock since 2003

ISD do not reply to EVE Mails or PMs to discuss moderation actions. Please contact Customer Support in those cases.

Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-06-12 20:08:52 UTC
Echo Echoplex wrote:
How do I undo this mess? I can't find a way to open the Frigate 5 and drag the rest back out. Lol
Right-click on the Frigate 5 skill in the queue and select remove. Alternatively, left-click on the Frigate 5 skill and a "Remove" button should appear at the bottom of the windows.

And yes, it's a bit odd that you can drag skills into the skill queue, but not out of it.
Echo Echoplex
#50 - 2013-06-12 22:27:01 UTC
Thanks for all the help, every one of you. o7 I got it straightened out.

Tau Cabalander wrote:
For what it is worth, I happily accept questions and such via EVE-mail. I've also lost count how many times I've helped people dispatch Dagan.

Post leading into the rabbit-hole of links:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2155469#post2155469

Few more links:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2026502#post2026502


Hey Tau, I may take you up on that with my Next Noob Mistake, thanks.

Pinaculus wrote:
EVE is really not that complicated. EVE jargon is incredibly complicated.


THIS to the nth!




Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
#51 - 2013-07-01 10:57:40 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Welcome to our disfunctional familly

Echo Echoplex wrote:

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi".


This part is pretty accurate.


Scary part is that after a while it even starts to make perfect sense.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#52 - 2013-07-01 15:17:02 UTC
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa wrote:
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Welcome to our disfunctional familly

Echo Echoplex wrote:

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi".


This part is pretty accurate.


Scary part is that after a while it even starts to make perfect sense.
Even worse is when you start using Eve terms in normal conversation.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

Nayo Renyk
Armored Corps
#53 - 2013-07-02 06:13:05 UTC
Echo Echoplex wrote:
"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples."

I enjoyed that quite a bit, thank you Lol
Balthasar Moreq
Incursions Missions and Mining
#54 - 2013-07-02 07:21:59 UTC
Troll 0/10, the sniff of a girl and all you neckbeards get excited....
Capt Gauss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-07-02 07:26:43 UTC
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa wrote:
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Welcome to our disfunctional familly

Echo Echoplex wrote:

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi".


This part is pretty accurate.


Scary part is that after a while it even starts to make perfect sense.


I think you fitted taht F235 wrong. You should clearly have a foaiwejfio5092, it'll save on cap.


On another note,
Welcome to Eve!!

I am a freshy just like yourself (well my character should be younger than yours....)
Velarra
#56 - 2013-07-02 22:13:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Velarra
Welcome to Eve!

As a mac user you may find this really helpful to get the most from your eve experience:
http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

As for why some people truly quit after years of playing, beyond the typical "I QUIT! rawr!!!" breaks due to momentary frustration, Eve has some history, events. You might say things have happened.

Player/customer trusts/expectations overwhelmingly breached. These experiences have given some people reasons to finally recognize they weren't enjoying themselves. That some things just weren't cool. You might say it was perceived that the damage of these events, (events they as players had zero control over) were enough to give them reason to truly quit and never come back.

Yet if you can accept that sometimes these things happen, you'll be fine (or you'll completely quit 3 years from now when some genuinely unfair event happens to you as a customer / subscriber / client).
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2013-07-02 22:26:24 UTC
"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4Dfa4fOEY

reminded me of that XD
Echo Echoplex
#58 - 2013-07-03 01:12:53 UTC
Capt Gauss wrote:


I think you fitted taht F235 wrong. You should clearly have a foaiwejfio5092, it'll save on cap.


On another note,
Welcome to Eve!!

I am a freshy just like yourself (well my character should be younger than yours....)

Thanks Cap'n! o7 Maybe I'll see you ingame Smile


Velarra wrote:
Welcome to Eve!

As a mac user you may find this really helpful to get the most from your eve experience:
http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

As for why some people truly quit after years of playing, beyond the typical "I QUIT! rawr!!!" breaks due to momentary frustration, Eve has some history, events. You might say things have happened.

Player/customer trusts/expectations overwhelmingly breached. These experiences have given some people reasons to finally recognize they weren't enjoying themselves. That some things just weren't cool. You might say it was perceived that the damage of these events, (events they as players had zero control over) were enough to give them reason to truly quit and never come back.

Yet if you can accept that sometimes these things happen, you'll be fine (or you'll completely quit 3 years from now when some genuinely unfair event happens to you as a customer / subscriber / client).

Thanks-I'd considered downlaoding Bootcamp but have since found the only workaround I needed was the alternative keyboard viewer so I'm good to go I think.

Re: events, you're right. I wasn't really thinking of things like the Incarna debacle, more just players quitting over being podded or scammed. I can understand leaving over a matter of principle. Crossing fingers I'll be here 3 years from now, jaded, scarred and weary, but never broken. Big smile

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

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