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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#161 - 2013-06-09 17:22:42 UTC
Ekhss Nihilo wrote:
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Sethose Olderon wrote:
When is the patch turning Eve into a pvp-arena?

It was called "Release Day." Or something to that effect. Just because "high sec" isn't 0.0, doesn't mean it isn't a "pvp-arena."

Also, clearly my mercenary work in high sec is simply me professing a desire to join a nullsec alliance. My secret fetish for SOV grinding is revealed!

True - war decs kind of blow that one out of the water.

You're in luck - we have lots of sov to grind in Fountain.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#162 - 2013-06-09 17:24:21 UTC
58,604 people currently logged on apparently seem to disagree with you. You won't be missed :)

(Stuff, can I have it?)

I lied :o
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#163 - 2013-06-09 19:25:14 UTC
Nullsec is for neck beards.

Hi sec and low sec are for people who want to have fun.

I bet if you did a study of unemployment rates of null sec people compared to normal superior high/low sec people, the null beards would be drastically higher.

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Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#164 - 2013-06-10 10:09:00 UTC
Wy leave , just rent a system , you still make decent amount of isk even with small corp

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#165 - 2013-06-10 13:41:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Which is why EvE really isn't a sandbox game.

Nullsec wouldn't influence a player in a sandbox game. Same with high or low sec.

PvE and PvP wouldn't influence each other, as you're allowed to do your own thing.

Haven't you mixed up the terms "Sandbox" and "Singleplayer"?
Because I'm pretty sure you did.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#166 - 2013-06-10 13:55:58 UTC
Wow, I must be playing a different game or something... Cause nullsec people don't tell me what to do...


Yet...

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Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#167 - 2013-06-10 14:11:08 UTC
OP, have you ever lived in null? Personally I find it boring, thus (I believe) all the drama. Kind of like a bunch of bored housewives. Of course, your mileage may vary.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#168 - 2013-06-10 14:16:00 UTC
And yet another crying clown that can't just leave the game without crying about it on the forums first...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#169 - 2013-06-10 14:26:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
OP, some of us can see where you are coming from, the issue for me is that the farms and fields is out of kilter, so that vast areas of 0.0 sit there fully TCU'd, IHUB'd and Stationed but no one operating in them at all..., many people who have tried to take even a rubbish system have been curb stomped and have decided to just chill in high sec, while null sec people whine of a lack of targets and continiously think of ways to nerf HS to push people who will never go to 0.0 to go.

However the recent changes may make a difference to sov holding and I suggest that you stick with it, it will take time to play out, but it may just work, because holding sov over an entire region may no longer be possible finanically and moving vast fleets of Supers and Titans from one end of the map to the other will be so costly that even the richest alliance may balk at it, there is hope, but it will take time to manifest itself.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#170 - 2013-06-10 14:26:59 UTC
Kult Altol wrote:


I bet if you did a study of unemployment rates of null sec people compared to normal superior high/low sec people, the null beards would be drastically higher.



I too pull random numbers out of my ass Roll



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Sethose Olderon
Honourable Company of Gentlemen
#171 - 2013-06-12 14:25:59 UTC
Maxpie wrote:
OP, have you ever lived in null? Personally I find it boring, thus (I believe) all the drama. Kind of like a bunch of bored housewives. Of course, your mileage may vary.


There are parts of nullsec that I do find boring, however the draw of Eve for me was the socio-political aspects. I'm much more interested in leadership than I am in anything else. I like to manage things, and that exists independent of location.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#172 - 2013-06-12 14:31:43 UTC
Sethose Olderon wrote:
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson



That guy talked to much.

Im glad he is dead.

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Sethose Olderon
Honourable Company of Gentlemen
#173 - 2013-06-12 14:33:59 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sethose Olderon wrote:
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson



That guy talked to much.

Im glad he is dead.


Troll is troll.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
Adunh Slavy
#174 - 2013-06-12 14:37:06 UTC
Power projection and territorial control should have exponential cost curves, like everything else in Eve.

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Generals4
#175 - 2013-06-12 14:45:47 UTC
Sethose Olderon wrote:
Maxpie wrote:
OP, have you ever lived in null? Personally I find it boring, thus (I believe) all the drama. Kind of like a bunch of bored housewives. Of course, your mileage may vary.


There are parts of nullsec that I do find boring, however the draw of Eve for me was the socio-political aspects. I'm much more interested in leadership than I am in anything else. I like to manage things, and that exists independent of location.


Have you ever considered "claiming" a wormhole? You don't need to be part of a mega alliance to do that.

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Sethose Olderon
Honourable Company of Gentlemen
#176 - 2013-06-12 14:46:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Sethose Olderon
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Power projection and territorial control should have exponential cost curves, like everything else in Eve.


I agree, and the original concepts in the Dominion expansion would have worked towards achieving this, but the nullbears bitched and whined to epic proportions, and thus its effects were neutered.

Oh wait, I forgot, my bad. Highsec and lowsec are where all the whiners are.


Generals4 wrote:
Sethose Olderon wrote:
Maxpie wrote:
OP, have you ever lived in null? Personally I find it boring, thus (I believe) all the drama. Kind of like a bunch of bored housewives. Of course, your mileage may vary.


There are parts of nullsec that I do find boring, however the draw of Eve for me was the socio-political aspects. I'm much more interested in leadership than I am in anything else. I like to manage things, and that exists independent of location.


Have you ever considered "claiming" a wormhole? You don't need to be part of a mega alliance to do that.


See previous post of this issue.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
Ace Menda
Gemini Lounge
#177 - 2013-06-12 14:55:13 UTC
Sethose Olderon wrote:
After playing Eve for almost seven years, I have come to an ultimate conclusion. I'm the type of person that wants to find my own path, and not follow under anyone else's rules (nullsec blocks). After several attempts to achieve the goal of building an Alliance and claiming sovereignty on its own terms I've realized this is impossible.

Why? Two main reasons.

First, and foremost, Eve is dominated by Nullsec. Their culture, tactics, and influence is impossible to counter or side-step. Anyone who attempts to do so is curb-stomped and eliminated. Either you play by their rules, or you can take your toys and go home --the epitome of playground politics.

Secondly, CCP is in love with nullsec. All the members of the CSM are nullsec clowns bowing to the whims of their maniacal masters. CCP's never-ending love affair with the whole damn thing leads them to screw anyone or anything who has an alternative agenda. They incessantly push everyone towards nullsec, while having no consideration for the individual or for the small corporation or alliance. Either you join a mega-alliance and become cannon-fodder or you really have no viable long-term path in Eve. Nullsec is the end-game of Eve.

So, I ask in earnest CCP, when are you going to make all of Eve nullsec. When is the patch turning Eve into a pvp-arena? Stop dicking around, and do it, or give the rest of us options. Consider the individual, the small corporation, and the small alliance. Not everyone is interested in doing the bidding of a maniacal bloated psychopath and his personality cult.

For me, it really doesn't matter, it's the last straw. Subscription Cancelled.

Cue the, "Can I have your stuff lines". No, you can't have it, f*ck off.


Addition: The original post has 42 likes as of now, it seems I struck a nerve. Thanks for the support, I hope for you the future will change things.


And why should we care?

Your not giving away your stuff, makes the whole thread useless.

p.s. You do know that CSM is elected by the PLAYERS, maybe next time vote or run for a CSM positioin.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#178 - 2013-06-12 14:58:37 UTC
Sethose Olderon wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sethose Olderon wrote:
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson



That guy talked to much.

Im glad he is dead.


Troll is troll.



No, Im just a subject of His Majesty and I dont like lippy colonials


Traitors and terrorists the lot of them

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#179 - 2013-06-12 15:00:12 UTC
If you can't find your path, then it's you who are the problem. Maybe your desired path in nullsec space is to forge a great empire.

Maybe mine is to kill other people, and maybe that of my leader-people (dictators and all that evil stuff) is to direct me to ensure the members of your corporation never prosper, and without them your alliance never rises to challenge ours? Believe me, there's plenty of room for small corporations among the "big boys". Unless by "small" you mean 4-man corp where one member is eternally AFK, one is a mega-carebear, the director hasn't logged on in a year and the only competent guy is a spy trying to awox the carebear.

And to add, where's the evidence of "CCP loves nullsec" if 0.0 was being screwed over for years, and Odyssey industry buffs were the first big, good change?

Also, your stuff, you know the drill though be so kind and redfrog it near a jumpoff point to the ~ccp loveland of nullsec~, I can't be bothered to leave the lovezone to pick things up.

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Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#180 - 2013-06-12 15:02:08 UTC
This

It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.