Market Discussions

It looks like CCP did another stealth nerf but this time to Data sites.
New hacking minigame is fine, not easy but ok. The issue is Data sites (old Radar sites ) containers have a lot less valuable items inside it.
Before Odyssey single radar site had 20~30m ISK in decryptors (lowsec) each depends of luck but those were on average.
Now new Data sites are.... well check for yourself.

I expect decryptor prices will go up due to less supply avaible.

Thoughts?

Supply won't increase. Here is comparation:

Single radar site before Odyssey was worth 20 to 30m ISK in lowsec. The loot was tipically 4 to 5 random kinds of Decryptors, depends of radar.

After Odyssey single Radar site is worth up to 4m ISK in lowsec, but as I did 10+ sites just last night it seems to be a lot less as Radars generate huge amounts of worthless junk now. So after doing 10+ sites in Heimatar area I got maybe a 7m worth in loot.

I'll invastigate this futher, but for now it looks like a big nerf.

Prices will go up.

Love MD conflict.

The rate of decryptor spawns have actually gone up now.

Pre-patch - A serpentis virus testing site would have 3 containers, containing 0-4 decrpytors and maybe a bpc or something.
Post-patch - Every container I took contained at least 1 and it can go up to 2 decryptors instead of 0-2 .
Also the spew containers have been analyzed and you are sure to get the loot you want once you understand the mechanics behind it(you would even know if you could get a bpc before even hacking ). My avg virus testing site site now gives me at least decryptors = to the amount of containers on site.

If the RNG gods favour you , pre-patch you have at least 1-2 more decryptors , but if you were unlucky, well 0 decryptors for you.

On top of that , no more NPC's. you don't even need to clear the site and any frig can go in and get some loot :)

With the new patch, Decryptors are really easy to get now. Thus I expect the price of decryptors to correct down.

I expected the decryptor market to take a dive and i can confirm it for Esoteric Augmentation and Occult Accelerant (the only ones i needed occassionaly)
Esoteric Augmentation is close to zero value or in the 10k maybe 100k ISK range from about 4-6m within 2 days.
Occult Accelerant, this one isn't going down as fast as the above but give it 2 weeks and it will be in the same ISK range.

As someone who explores and a trader that lost already 20b in decryptors due to large stock pre-odyssey I would like to salute CCP for killing the market of decryptors.

Drops are now atleast x2 and if you know the mechanics you can basically alone pickup all worthy loot. During my all exploration career I never saw many sites respawn in my area every 5 min. Scanning and hacking is actually now faster without a need to kill a single rat and only requirement is t1 scan frigate - LOL

back to topic. Forecast - Radars are new mag sites.

Prices have gone way down, I wonder if this will be the end of high sec exploration for me

It probably will be, for now at least. I was out exploring in null sec, brought home a lot of stuff as one of the first I would dare say :P So I put it up at the market at the going rate (the old things that had an established price already), went back to null and had a few sales but it kinda stopped quickly.. So I went back to Heimatar to check the orders, and prices had pretty much halved on everything after a day.. some was down to a third.

At this point it's still going down, but I would hope once the hype wears off and everyone tires of spew containers and the hordes of foaming station traders, they'll go back to grinding lvl 4 missions and the prices might stabilize a bit.

Of course there's a lot of blueprints too, but haven't managed to sell a single one of those, so not really sure about those yet.

yeah prices are at a all time low i suggest we all just sit back and stop selling them till it stabilizes a bit..hopefully this is just becouse of the hype around exploration right now..

I just scan cans in data sites and only start hacking if there is some valuable BPC inside, like ship interface BPC or even faction - otherwise move on.