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Alice Saraki
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-11 11:57:04 UTC
Hi to all, i'm ordinary player which stands for justice and want to present you my observations of one guy. I suspect him in using some 3-rd party software, i'm already made tickets in support, used magick button "report bot", but no answers or any other actions i didnt saw from CCP. Now i made a little fraps video and want to ask you guys, what u think about him, is he botting or not ? I want to focus on one detail in this video, he activating about eight x2 Ice Harvesters in less then 1 second, i mean how human can press f1-f2 in one time in so many launched clients ? Maybe some one have ideas, how he doing this ?
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P.S. Sorry for my bad english Oops
Effect One
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-06-11 13:24:03 UTC
Could be using ISBoxer.

I would wait for the petition response.

'This might be internet spaceships, but it's not rocket science to protect yourself and fly with a little common sense' - CCP Falcon
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#3 - 2013-06-11 13:48:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Erotica 1
Personally, I suggest petitioning again to ask that they remove this thread. No one likes bots or bot aspirants, but discussing such activity or accusing someone of it in the forums is against the rules I do believe.

If you wish to fight against this sort of thing, your best bet is to visit www.minerbumping.com

*edit* also, keep the details of the response from CCP to yourself.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-11 13:52:18 UTC
Its called grouping.... same way you fire all your weapons at once... maybe a petition is in order for everyone that groups their high slots
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#5 - 2013-06-11 16:49:51 UTC
ISO boxing & small scale botting is allowed in EVE regardless of what EULA states.
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#6 - 2013-06-11 18:40:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Daisai
Yes he is botting but he is using a legal bot since alot of multiboxers use it.
If they would ban those players they only end up hurting themself.

Best way to deal with this is a couple of battleships with smartbombs and warp directly to the orca.
Jason Xado
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-06-11 19:01:09 UTC
Multiboxing is valid gameplay.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#8 - 2013-06-11 20:17:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Ayeipsia
Daisai wrote:
Yes he is botting but he is using a legal bot since alot of multiboxers use it.
If they would ban those players they only end up hurting themself.

Best way to deal with this is a couple of battleships with smartbombs and warp directly to the orca.


Botting and multi-boxing are not the same.

Botting implies autonimation. If someone is botting, they log in, turn on the bots, go to work, come home to a station full of ore.

Multi-boxing is using a software or hardware utility to transmit commands from one input source to multiple clients. A person is still present at the keyboard, making the commands. Though you may not like this, CCP is fine with multi-boxing so long as long as a person is the source of the commands.

Another way of looking at it... If a botter leaves his house for 6 hours, the game still plays and isk is still made. If a multi-boxer leaves their house, after the asteroids being currently mined are depleted, the accounts would just sit in space.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#9 - 2013-06-11 22:18:41 UTC
That name o.O

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-06-12 02:54:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
This is exactly why IS boxer should be banned.
Making it legal is by far the most offensive thing CCP do.

Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Botting and multi-boxing are not the same.

sure, but multiboxing with the help of bot software and flat out botting should be the same thing.

There is no Bob.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#11 - 2013-06-12 06:30:31 UTC
Run an antimatter test on their ships.

ISBoxer pseudobots will warp their whole fleet away. Bots will try to all warp when targeted. And AFK players will whine in local if their medical clone is in system.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Alice Saraki
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-06-12 06:44:11 UTC
Well, seems like all legit, if EULA allow this 3-d party softaware then i have no questions. Also this guy said in local chat yesterday, that he's using this multibox or something like this.

Alice Saki wrote:
That name o.O

I can say same. I used inggame function to generate nick.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2013-06-12 07:57:27 UTC
Just because the GMs tolerate ISOboxers does not mean the player base ever should.

Gank Catalysts for the win.


Ask the New Order if you need additional firepower.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2013-06-12 08:21:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Just because the GMs tolerate ISOboxers does not mean the player base ever should.

Gank Catalysts for the win.


Ask the New Order if you need additional firepower.



Many carebears still believe in the rule law through petitions and bans.

Take matters into your own hands. Enforce the CODE and grief bot aspirants into quitting.

EVE is not for everyone, make it yours!

http://www.minerbumping.com/

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Muhiheh
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#15 - 2013-06-12 09:27:52 UTC
If I got 1 mil isk for every time some ******** scammer tried to push me into paying "protection fine" or "mining indulgence tax" or some other crap made up to make money for doing no work, I'd be having in production Titan already.

Quote:
Take matters into your own hands. Enforce the CODE and grief bot aspirants into quitting.


Yeah, the more you force into quitting, the faster you'll run into bussiness. Freaking ******. The more you do this, the less targets you'll have in high sec and that's when the going will get tough because YOU will have to go into no-mans land. Crybabies.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#16 - 2013-06-12 10:54:08 UTC
Alice Saraki wrote:
Well, seems like all legit, if EULA allow this 3-d party softaware then i have no questions. Also this guy said in local chat yesterday, that he's using this multibox or something like this.

Alice Saki wrote:
That name o.O

I can say same. I used inggame function to generate nick.


That's ok then PBlink

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-06-12 12:25:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
Muhiheh wrote:
If I got 1 mil isk for every time some ******** scammer tried to push me into paying "protection fine" or "mining indulgence tax" or some other crap made up to make money for doing no work, I'd be having in production Titan already.

Quote:
Take matters into your own hands. Enforce the CODE and grief bot aspirants into quitting.


Yeah, the more you force into quitting, the faster you'll run into bussiness. Freaking ******. The more you do this, the less targets you'll have in high sec and that's when the going will get tough because YOU will have to go into no-mans land. Crybabies.



What misdirected anger you have there. Projection issues as well, as I don't think any CODE enforcers have shed a tear.

Your failure is assuming the enforcers enforce for selfish reasons. This isn't an unreasonable assumption, after all, your attitude shows that you are selfish, so you project that onto others as well.

What you are missing is the fact that the CODE is an entirely altruistic creation. You are truly misguided and uninformed if you think otherwise.

The CODE is enforced not for the entertainment of it's directorate or volunteers, but for the betterment of all, carebear and pirate alike; for the good of New Eden.

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Litair
Nleesh
#18 - 2013-06-12 23:58:42 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
Muhiheh wrote:
If I got 1 mil isk for every time some ******** scammer tried to push me into paying "protection fine" or "mining indulgence tax" or some other crap made up to make money for doing no work, I'd be having in production Titan already.

Quote:
Take matters into your own hands. Enforce the CODE and grief bot aspirants into quitting.


Yeah, the more you force into quitting, the faster you'll run into bussiness. Freaking ******. The more you do this, the less targets you'll have in high sec and that's when the going will get tough because YOU will have to go into no-mans land. Crybabies.



What misdirected anger you have there. Projection issues as well, as I don't think any CODE enforcers have shed a tear.

Your failure is assuming the enforcers enforce for selfish reasons. This isn't an unreasonable assumption, after all, your attitude shows that you are selfish, so you project that onto others as well.

What you are missing is the fact that the CODE is an entirely altruistic creation. You are truly misguided and uninformed if you think otherwise.

The CODE is enforced not for the entertainment of it's directorate or volunteers, but for the betterment of all, carebear and pirate alike; for the good of New Eden.


I almost giggled, if it wasn't because having spent more than five minutes on the EVE forums have made me immune to blunt sarcasm.
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-06-13 00:12:05 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
This is exactly why IS boxer should be banned.
Making it legal is by far the most offensive thing CCP do.

Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Botting and multi-boxing are not the same.

sure, but multiboxing with the help of bot software and flat out botting should be the same thing.


Do you know why ISBoxer is allowed? ISBoxer doesn't do anything that you wouldn't be able to do with a setup irl with several computers.

Also you clearly don't understand the term "bot" it's a shorten for "robot".
A Robot does something it's coded to do, and can only do thoes actions. It can do it 24/7 all year long.

But then again there's probably split opinions about what a "bot" is..
ISBoxer is not a bot software you cannot code it to do the same actions, without human interference thus making it a legit multiboxing software to use.

Either way i'm sure you haven't used ISBoxer since you're claiming it's a bot.
http://lavishsoft.com use it before claiming it's a bot please.

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com 
Muhiheh
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#20 - 2013-06-13 13:27:49 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
What misdirected anger you have there. Projection issues as well, as I don't think any CODE enforcers have shed a tear.

Your failure is assuming the enforcers enforce for selfish reasons. This isn't an unreasonable assumption, after all, your attitude shows that you are selfish, so you project that onto others as well.

What you are missing is the fact that the CODE is an entirely altruistic creation. You are truly misguided and uninformed if you think otherwise.

The CODE is enforced not for the entertainment of it's directorate or volunteers, but for the betterment of all, carebear and pirate alike; for the good of New Eden.


If you had followed my line of voice the entire time, instead of trying to scratch your non-existant genitals, you'd see there was no anger in my post at all. You sir, if I might call you that is jumping to conclusions.

So please, refrain from accusing others of your own failing delusions of grandeur.