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Sajuk'ar
Papil Babla LLC
#81 - 2013-06-12 04:55:22 UTC
MORE! Give us more fresh VICTIMS!!!

MAIM! KILL!! BURN!!!
Mario Putzo
#82 - 2013-06-12 05:14:30 UTC
Sajuk'ar wrote:
MORE! Give us more fresh VICTIMS!!!

MAIM! KILL!! BURN!!!


~It is part of a good man to do great and noble deeds, though he risk everything.~
Plutarch
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#83 - 2013-06-12 05:31:55 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Diomedes Calypso wrote:
LOL.. now, I'm a merry trolling nacisitic philosopher type with an opinion on everything...even things that I don't know much about.

I"m not a goon:I was 86'd for life from posting on something awful due tomy inabilty to type and spell properly.
The last straw was when i typed. Lmoa instead of Lmao (which would have been frowned on too).

But.. I'll share this.

Most people in the thread have it Ask-backwards - you can't fight the Goons with ships.. .. and fighting them on your own turf is almost silly.. unless your aim is to have fun PVPIng (you would have fun pvping but thats a different point)

IF your AIM was to cause PAIN to the goons... you must troll them.



Even better.. develop a way of trolling that GRATES.

Insults don't grate.

Explain world history slightly wrong. Explain how a server operates wrong mixing up terms.. spam local with tenchical white papers with errors in them .. figure out what sort of industries people work in and miscategorize the attributes of different companies.. talk about mistaken facts with your fellow afk cloakers a few minutes an hour. Don't be TOO far wrong.. facts that are SLIGHTLY ignorant bother knowledgable people most. It is easy to ignore people who know nothing but it is very hard to listen to people right about 90% of a complicated subject and misguided in the last 10% in ways they've actually heard in real life... .. they'll pull their hair our.... do it in law.. do it in medcine.. do it about UI designe.

Trolll with dry material that just slightly tugs their chains reminding them of irritations in their daily life.


NOW

I doubt high sec people can do that. Why... lol. .its not fun for you to tug peoples chains and you won't feel the joy of the "march of destiny" in your concious as you bore more and more goons from logging on

Boring them must be your goal.. collect their indfifference and sense of tedium like they collect your tears!




I think this is the first TL:DR post that I actually decided not to attempt reading past a few words...

If you can't type English... please...please stop typing words that resemble it over and over.

*edit* reading his Engrish made me make some of my own mistakes...



Hhahahhah a

Case in point.

This is how you can inflext pain. Yeah , if i took the time to look back on what i wrote i'd spell it "inflict" BUT you understood what I'm gettting at and your insistance on spelling and having it easy to understand shows that you are locked to our convential ideals .

Goons might present themselves as merry men but for some personality wrinkle (shared with other non goons of course) if i were to type purpel instead of purple they'd think I was less smart.

No.. im less careful Purple is a concept not a word. words are mere contrivances to paint an idea. Troll means something different in a internet setting than a fair book but trlll means the same thing if i say "don't trll me".. unless you're not very athletic with word jumbles and stuff like that.

On topic.. to destroy the moral of certain opposition I could talk about aspects of how Scott Mcneeally founded pixar and used an alliance with Borland to take the screws to Sun . If I did so politely within a broader subject with more truth in it, this sort of incidence would stick with someone who worked for Sun after the game. It might bother them on the way to work. (Of course Scott Mcneally was chairman of Sun, Pixar , founded by Steve Jobs didn't have a heck of a lot of connection with Sun's main business... certainly they weren't selling a competing product of a major Sun assett.. and borland...well .. no connection at all .. maybe the lie would have been more irritating with Oracle because it would have been remotely more plausible.

EVE warfare not only deals with ships but with morale to fight.

The point i may have sunk your morale about the world in a way you might consider on the way to work or even montths later ("that ididot who thinks its ok to spell "purple" as "purpel" ) shows its much more effective than calling you a crude word for someone with a different sexual orientation .

This type of devious thinking is the type of thing that might break the will of the Goons to fight (might... like I said.. the something awful moderators were as beside themselves as your are)

It wouldn't just be spelling of course, but changing the very pattina of the universe around them with reminders of things like work and stuff like shooting your allies ships before they could get you etc.... but waging a war that produced very few killmails and was more about keeping a constant state of distraction would hurt more than a war where they had big losses but good fights.

.
Mario Putzo
#84 - 2013-06-12 05:52:42 UTC
Diomedes Calypso wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Diomedes Calypso wrote:
LOL.. now, I'm a merry trolling nacisitic philosopher type with an opinion on everything...even things that I don't know much about.

I"m not a goon:I was 86'd for life from posting on something awful due tomy inabilty to type and spell properly.
The last straw was when i typed. Lmoa instead of Lmao (which would have been frowned on too).

But.. I'll share this.

Most people in the thread have it Ask-backwards - you can't fight the Goons with ships.. .. and fighting them on your own turf is almost silly.. unless your aim is to have fun PVPIng (you would have fun pvping but thats a different point)

IF your AIM was to cause PAIN to the goons... you must troll them.



Even better.. develop a way of trolling that GRATES.

Insults don't grate.

Explain world history slightly wrong. Explain how a server operates wrong mixing up terms.. spam local with tenchical white papers with errors in them .. figure out what sort of industries people work in and miscategorize the attributes of different companies.. talk about mistaken facts with your fellow afk cloakers a few minutes an hour. Don't be TOO far wrong.. facts that are SLIGHTLY ignorant bother knowledgable people most. It is easy to ignore people who know nothing but it is very hard to listen to people right about 90% of a complicated subject and misguided in the last 10% in ways they've actually heard in real life... .. they'll pull their hair our.... do it in law.. do it in medcine.. do it about UI designe.

Trolll with dry material that just slightly tugs their chains reminding them of irritations in their daily life.


NOW

I doubt high sec people can do that. Why... lol. .its not fun for you to tug peoples chains and you won't feel the joy of the "march of destiny" in your concious as you bore more and more goons from logging on

Boring them must be your goal.. collect their indfifference and sense of tedium like they collect your tears!




I think this is the first TL:DR post that I actually decided not to attempt reading past a few words...

If you can't type English... please...please stop typing words that resemble it over and over.

*edit* reading his Engrish made me make some of my own mistakes...



Hhahahhah a

Case in point.

This is how you can inflext pain. Yeah , if i took the time to look back on what i wrote i'd spell it "inflict" BUT you understood what I'm gettting at and your insistance on spelling and having it easy to understand shows that you are locked to our convential ideals .

Goons might present themselves as merry men but for some personality wrinkle (shared with other non goons of course) if i were to type purpel instead of purple they'd think I was less smart.

No.. im less careful Purple is a concept not a word. words are mere contrivances to paint an idea. Troll means something different in a internet setting than a fair book but trlll means the same thing if i say "don't trll me".. unless you're not very athletic with word jumbles and stuff like that.

On topic.. to destroy the moral of certain opposition I could talk about aspects of how Scott Mcneeally founded pixar and used an alliance with Borland to take the screws to Sun . If I did so politely within a broader subject with more truth in it, this sort of incidence would stick with someone who worked for Sun after the game. It might bother them on the way to work. (Of course Scott Mcneally was chairman of Sun, Pixar , founded by Steve Jobs didn't have a heck of a lot of connection with Sun's main business... certainly they weren't selling a competing product of a major Sun assett.. and borland...well .. no connection at all .. maybe the lie would have been more irritating with Oracle because it would have been remotely more plausible.

EVE warfare not only deals with ships but with morale to fight.

The point i may have sunk your morale about the world in a way you might consider on the way to work or even montths later ("that ididot who thinks its ok to spell "purple" as "purpel" ) shows its much more effective than calling you a crude word for someone with a different sexual orientation .

This type of devious thinking is the type of thing that might break the will of the Goons to fight (might... like I said.. the something awful moderators were as beside themselves as your are)

It wouldn't just be spelling of course, but changing the very pattina of the universe around them with reminders of things like work and stuff like shooting your allies ships before they could get you etc.... but waging a war that produced very few killmails and was more about keeping a constant state of distraction would hurt more than a war where they had big losses but good fights.




Reading a little to hard into the narrative mate.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2013-06-12 05:54:02 UTC
I agree that this is a very effective form of trolling but I don't see how it would have any impact on GSF as an alliance.

If anything your behavior will increase morale (as you make it evident that you need to be purged off the face of EVE) - just look at goons' perception of test posting; it's not intentional on part of test but the effect is pretty much what you describe.

.
Mario Putzo
#86 - 2013-06-12 06:13:18 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
I agree that this is a very effective form of trolling but I don't see how it would have any impact on GSF as an alliance.

If anything your behavior will increase morale (as you make it evident that you need to be purged off the face of EVE) - just look at goons' perception of test posting; it's not intentional on part of test but the effect is pretty much what you describe.


~A small stone may make a ripple at first, but someday it will be a wave.~
- Wiegraf
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#87 - 2013-06-12 06:36:06 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
~A small stone may make a ripple at first, but someday it will be a wave.~
- Wiegraf

That's never actually happened though. What a stupid quote.

Oh god.
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#88 - 2013-06-12 06:40:33 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:
I agree that this is a very effective form of trolling but I don't see how it would have any impact on GSF as an alliance.

If anything your behavior will increase morale (as you make it evident that you need to be purged off the face of EVE) - just look at goons' perception of test posting; it's not intentional on part of test but the effect is pretty much what you describe.


~A small stone may make a ripple at first, but someday it will be a wave.~
- Wiegraf

Show us your support.
http://i.imgur.com/EbjNpDk.jpg
Mario Putzo
#89 - 2013-06-12 06:40:43 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
~A small stone may make a ripple at first, but someday it will be a wave.~
- Wiegraf

That's never actually happened though. What a stupid quote.


“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_revolutions_and_rebellions

Just a short list of small stones creating waves.
Mario Putzo
#90 - 2013-06-12 06:45:52 UTC
OldWolf69 wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:
I agree that this is a very effective form of trolling but I don't see how it would have any impact on GSF as an alliance.

If anything your behavior will increase morale (as you make it evident that you need to be purged off the face of EVE) - just look at goons' perception of test posting; it's not intentional on part of test but the effect is pretty much what you describe.


~A small stone may make a ripple at first, but someday it will be a wave.~
- Wiegraf

Show us your support.
http://i.imgur.com/EbjNpDk.jpg



“Those who lack the courage will always find a philosophy to justify it.”
― Albert Camus


On account of this:

directorbot@goonfleet.com/: When servers come back up we are NOT logging back in we formed up shot some dudes surprise sexed some carriers lost a few dreads and now we are gonna wait until tomorrow to move back --- As soon as we dropped our brave 13 dreads every hostile entity started logging in supers and titans even though we were outmanned again DO NOT LOG BACK IN WE WILL RESCUE YOU TOMORROW/LATER TONIGHT WATCH FOR PINGS ::


*** This was a broadcast from lazarus_telraven to all-all, replies are not monitored ***
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#91 - 2013-06-12 06:55:43 UTC  |  Edited by: OldWolf69
Mario Putzo wrote:
OldWolf69 wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:
I agree that this is a very effective form of trolling but I don't see how it would have any impact on GSF as an alliance.

If anything your behavior will increase morale (as you make it evident that you need to be purged off the face of EVE) - just look at goons' perception of test posting; it's not intentional on part of test but the effect is pretty much what you describe.


~A small stone may make a ripple at first, but someday it will be a wave.~
- Wiegraf

Show us your support.
http://i.imgur.com/EbjNpDk.jpg



“Those who lack the courage will always find a philosophy to justify it.”
― Albert Camus


On account of this:

directorbot@goonfleet.com/: When servers come back up we are NOT logging back in we formed up shot some dudes surprise sexed some carriers lost a few dreads and now we are gonna wait until tomorrow to move back --- As soon as we dropped our brave 13 dreads every hostile entity started logging in supers and titans even though we were outmanned again DO NOT LOG BACK IN WE WILL RESCUE YOU TOMORROW/LATER TONIGHT WATCH FOR PINGS ::


*** This was a broadcast from lazarus_telraven to all-all, replies are not monitored ***

True. Completely true. And after seeing Test being able to log in 300 guys form first minute, and CFC being unable to do it, just guess why they did post that? Because i think both sides tried it the same way. But seems that the Gods are not impartial. Never were.
Still wait to see Hisec boy'z moms coming down to Fountain, you know? Their dogs are already there.
***
Must admit i will be amazed by your courage if i see you there. Will i see you?
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#92 - 2013-06-12 06:58:06 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Just a short list of small stones creating waves.

It's a terrible analogy.

Oh god.
Mario Putzo
#93 - 2013-06-12 06:59:32 UTC
“One's dignity may be assaulted, vandalized and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away unless it is surrendered.”
― Michael J. Fox

Also if you spent less time browsing the forums, maybe you could have not been embarassed by 401K for the last few months. Also how is the SBUing of Venal going?
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#94 - 2013-06-12 07:08:01 UTC
Sounds like you know a lot about null sec politics. Why would a high sec pubbie care about that stuff? I think there's more to this CTA than you're letting on.

Oh god.
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#95 - 2013-06-12 07:10:03 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
“One's dignity may be assaulted, vandalized and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away unless it is surrendered.”
― Michael J. Fox

Also if you spent less time browsing the forums, maybe you could have not been embarassed by 401K for the last few months. Also how is the SBUing of Venal going?

"I don't think you realize how popular we are in the important MMO communities" -Glomenthal, member of Morior Invictus, Retirement Club Alliance.
Lol, now i'm really scared. Pls forgive me, i won't post here anymore. True Spaceship Warlords follow you so i must retreat.
***
Still don't see you down here. Speaking of loosing time on forums.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#96 - 2013-06-12 07:11:02 UTC
Hold on, nobody else post until I get back with my popcorn!

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#97 - 2013-06-12 07:13:12 UTC
OldWolf69 wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
“One's dignity may be assaulted, vandalized and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away unless it is surrendered.”
― Michael J. Fox

Also if you spent less time browsing the forums, maybe you could have not been embarassed by 401K for the last few months. Also how is the SBUing of Venal going?

"I don't think you realize how popular we are in the important MMO communities" -Glomenthal, member of Morior Invictus, Retirement Club Alliance.
Lol, now i'm really scared. Pls forgive me, i won't post here anymore. True Spaceship Warlords follow you so i must retreat.
***
Still don't see you down here. Speaking of loosing time on forums.

Important MMO communities? Like TEST Alliance Please Ignore, I guess?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#98 - 2013-06-12 07:34:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Diomedes Calypso
Riot Girl wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Just a short list of small stones creating waves.

It's a terrible analogy.


I don't love it but I get the concept. I'm not locked to the words themselves.

I would guess what is really missing is some double meanings in the original language.

A more accurate analogy for those that need something more than < innoculously small but persistant> can lead to something < big and deadly> But I don't think "wave" necessarily meant "big and deadly" so much to the author. And a "wave " means many things and in poetry it is very often just not one meaning but a flavor of all meanings of the word (sin wave, tidal wave, wave at a football stadium, wave of a hand.... yes water was mentioned but the feeling of the other meanings isn't null unless your a hopelessly linear minded person that takes things literally)

.. but on the "deadly and big thing" I could instead stay something like could be

a small rock kicked from a trail can create a landslide....


BUT that is an entirely more constrained concept.


what is important is the CONCEPT of a what a Ripple is and the concept of what a Wave is, and their juxtaposition.

Even if the pebble induced ripple would never turn into a wave the real point I believe it is saying :
" a ripple is a fractal version of a wave"

Fractals are a quite interesting concept and one we had less words for empirically not long ago but for which poetry and verse and idiom had explored earlier.

A ripple itself is a very interesting thing .. something so small creating such a large pattern on a small pond. Yes it doesn't create a crashing ocean type of wave.. but it does create a patter of a light/sound wave.. .AND .. it creates a tiny little lapping wave far from where it hit.... and PERHAPs that meaning is more apparent in the writer's other language.

You don't need to know the original language to let your mind contemplate the concepts together. Certainly the butterfly effect, or a small ripple of energy in a crowd flares outward into a riot (if you've ever experienced one you know it's force .... luckily my experience was more limited to taking down a field goal after a football game)

You spelling police are probably the same ones that get hung up on the preciseness of an analogy without trying to get the visceral relation.

Ripples and waves have all sorts of relations.. it is a fine analogy as long as you don't have this weird concept that words mean one and only one thing.

.
Mario Putzo
#99 - 2013-06-12 07:52:52 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
OldWolf69 wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
“One's dignity may be assaulted, vandalized and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away unless it is surrendered.”
― Michael J. Fox

Also if you spent less time browsing the forums, maybe you could have not been embarassed by 401K for the last few months. Also how is the SBUing of Venal going?

"I don't think you realize how popular we are in the important MMO communities" -Glomenthal, member of Morior Invictus, Retirement Club Alliance.
Lol, now i'm really scared. Pls forgive me, i won't post here anymore. True Spaceship Warlords follow you so i must retreat.
***
Still don't see you down here. Speaking of loosing time on forums.

Important MMO communities? Like TEST Alliance Please Ignore, I guess?



Or SMA since we are throwing around irrelevant Alliances.
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#100 - 2013-06-12 07:54:42 UTC  |  Edited by: OldWolf69
Mario Putzo wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
OldWolf69 wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
“One's dignity may be assaulted, vandalized and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away unless it is surrendered.”
― Michael J. Fox

Also if you spent less time browsing the forums, maybe you could have not been embarassed by 401K for the last few months. Also how is the SBUing of Venal going?

"I don't think you realize how popular we are in the important MMO communities" -Glomenthal, member of Morior Invictus, Retirement Club Alliance.
Lol, now i'm really scared. Pls forgive me, i won't post here anymore. True Spaceship Warlords follow you so i must retreat.
***
Still don't see you down here. Speaking of loosing time on forums.

Important MMO communities? Like TEST Alliance Please Ignore, I guess?



Or SMA since we are throwing around irrelevant Alliances.

Omg, you're so relevant...
Just before i go. Pls leave the Butthurt aside. I was going to thank you for the quotes:
http://i.imgur.com/ntDN3xa.jpg