Intergalactic Summit

It doesn't work like that. We shoot them, they complain. They shoot us, we complain, etc. It doesn't work like that at ALL for anyone who has half a brain. Who the hell are you to say, as a member of the Federation, that someone doesn't have the RIGHT to complain about the destruction brought upon their own people from a war led by a madman holding a station hostage? Where the HELL do you think you have the authority to tell them what to do?

The CPD and TD are an issue, fine. But don't curse the whole of the State for the actions of the few.

Good hunting, Verin, and to everyone trying to restore some sanity.

I've never been close enough to the State to have serious feelings about Heth beyond him being psychotic, but killing off Yanala was clear and final proof that he's a mad dog. It doesn't matter how anti-Federation you are, a paramilitary attempt to seize control of State assets out of no more tactical reason than blind hate is beyond redeemable.

It's not likely to happen, but I quietly hope that Heth's fate is to be led away, and forgotten. A quiet trial, without publicity or fuss, and then put somewhere he can never be relevant again. The best kind of end for such people.

Yes, absolutely. The State, its military comandeered by the Provists, broke about every international treaty the State ever signed with both the Federation and CONCORD when it entered sovereign Federal territory without Federal consent. Demanding terms under the threat of murder and genocide is absolutely terrorism, and any attempt to say otherwise is duplicitous.


No, but ordering an Oblivion strike on the planet absolutely was.


Seizing control of planetary and interplanetary resources from the governments that rightfully own them and installing occupational regimes? That might not be terrorism, but it's certainly just as bad. Occupying and blockading the homeworld of a race? That's hypocricy, if nothing else.


Your homes, your relatives, your citizens and your corporations are in danger because the State, under the coerced and illegitimate command of Tibus Heth, started a war. That the Federation is the thing threatening homes, relatives, citizens and corporations is not in dispute. But the reason they're threatening them? It's because of Heth's war.

Heth started a war on the basis of the belief that every citizen in the State desired war, but he didn't think to consult with any of those citizens - from the lowest factory worker to the highest admiral or CEO - before he plunged every single one of them into a war for survival against a strategically and numerically superior force. He wanted to claim all of the glory of victory but he didn't want to shoulder any of the consequences of failure.

He has failed.

You have failed.

And now you're paying for it.

I think that Heth is himself more motivated by Gallentean hatred than by proletariat idealism, Miss Priano.

Terrorism is just type of warfare targeted on terrifying enemy forces.
I consider this type of warfare cheap and not professional, because it won't work against professional military units, that are impervious to frightening and will continue operation regardless.

What you have listed are professionally conducted operations, that were targeted at achieving a directly set goal, that doesn't include frightening something or somebody.

I couldn't agree more. The label of "terrorism" is simply being applied here to produce a certain response among the population.

Looking at the way this discussion is going, applying this label was a success...

Hard for the Kaalakiota Board to object to anything when most of them are probably Provists appointed by the Executor himself.

Agreed. I dare say that we've had this conversation before, in fact.

Of course they are and Heth-haan owns a significant stake in Kaalakiota interests and this might be presumption on my part, but the whole affair in New Caldari a few months back in addition to the, "Investigations" into, "Executives involved" in the, "Illegal massacre" of Kaalakiota employees would have probably changed management structures.

As for who is charge right now of Kaalakiota and more importantly, the Home Guard? I honestly have no idea, but I do hope that Ms. Haatakan Oiritsuu will be re-appointed to lead Kaalakiota back on the course it requires in the interim.

Present circumstances certainly makes discerning where my own contractual obligations must lie difficult without Oiritsuu-haani.

I must add, that only among STUPID population.