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New dev blog: News from the fontlines

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Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#161 - 2011-10-06 11:02:01 UTC
CCP Punkturis, your work on fonts is not as glamorous as work on spaceships, but trust me on this, it is higher valued by the players.
A long awaited step in the right direction. My thanks. Bear
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#162 - 2011-10-06 12:01:11 UTC
Louis deGuerre wrote:
CCP Punkturis, your work on fonts is not as glamorous as work on spaceships, but trust me on this, it is higher valued by the players.
A long awaited step in the right direction. My thanks. Bear


Thank you so much for these kind words Big smile

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis ♥
Andre Coeurl
Embers Children
#163 - 2011-10-07 12:12:30 UTC
Wish I had 10 thumbs, they would be all up!
Great thing, I've been asking for font review for ages, this will help improve the player experience immensely Big smile
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#164 - 2011-10-10 13:23:12 UTC
Andre Coeurl wrote:
Wish I had 10 thumbs, they would be all up!
Great thing, I've been asking for font review for ages, this will help improve the player experience immensely Big smile



thank you! Big smile

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis ♥
Evenus Battuta
#165 - 2011-10-21 15:03:23 UTC
It is not the time of 800* 600 anymore, I think the new font is better but still not big enogh.Text must be big enough to allow players to play without digging their faces into the screen.

I know there will be problem of not enough space to display the UI, but that is the problem of UI design itself and should not remain covered by using tiny font.

I know you are in difficult time and had to fire people, but meanwhile I really think you should hire some new UI guy who actually know UI design. Terrible UI of EVE had always been a huge problem and had cost you many many potential subs.

Every UI can be made simple, clear and pleasant to use. If an UI seems too complicated and hard to use and have to use tiny font to hold itself within the screen, it is simply ill-designed.

a complete UI overhaul should be the first step of 'commitment to excellence' and shows your heart best.
Taijha Assari
StarDancer Excavations
#166 - 2011-10-27 22:42:56 UTC
While you're at it, why not give us a font scaling option for the UI? Like we have for the chat window... the readability issue stems from the font being too small.

The change you have pending will help, but really we need to be able to make the UI font larger. :)
Jerek Kyr
The Classy Gentlemans Corporation
Moist.
#167 - 2011-11-02 18:30:18 UTC
New font was a step in the right direction, but this font is not the answer in my opinion... I loved the old font, it was sci-fi all the way. Now, yes we can distinguish between some characters much better, but overall it's a pain to read.

Is it possible for there to be an option to have the option to choose between old font and new font? That would solve everything.
Egoz Acai
#168 - 2011-11-04 20:51:59 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
I to oppose change in any way while lamenting that things never get done and still expect progress in every field of EVE right now.

I wish to make bitter comments on how to little has been done to late and demean the achievements of making a font that will make reading in EVE less of a chore.

These changes, together with the upcoming new/old hangar will surely impact my favourite MMO chat room significantly.


What a stinging blast of reality; You made my day.

--
egoz acai
Xenial Jesse Taalo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#169 - 2011-11-05 08:52:36 UTC
Taijha Assari wrote:
While you're at it, why not give us a font scaling option for the UI? Like we have for the chat window... the readability issue stems from the font being too small.

The change you have pending will help, but really we need to be able to make the UI font larger. :)


This. Seriously. If Evemail still can not resize the text I will again return to wondering if this is 2011 or 1991. People are running the game on really high resolutions now, while even on a 900p laptop it's too small. People with real and impressive screens shouldn't be forced to view the same low number of pixels as people on small / laptop screens.
Laechyd Eldgorn
Avanto
Hole Control
#170 - 2011-11-05 10:38:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Laechyd Eldgorn
New font is way too big for my windowed mode 1280x768. I'm playing on 22" monitor with native 1680x1050 resolution.

With new font my overview target list can hold probably 30% less targets and same goes for scanner, chat lists etc.

And because I was already hoping -smaller- font to show more stuff on overview it's kind of bad. It isn't really cool when your oveview can show like 5 targets.

Also I liked the old font better, EXCEPT zero.

Context menu font size 10 is too big and 9 feels a bit difficult to read for some reason. Size 9 is ok, but readability is kind of bad.
Haulin Aussie
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#171 - 2011-11-05 21:28:50 UTC
Just logged on to sisi for the first time in months.

WHAT A TERRIBAD FONT.
Archetype 66
Perkone
Caldari State
#172 - 2011-11-06 02:08:00 UTC
Nice improvement to be able to recognize B/8 S/5 etc....but atm, it looks ugly on Sissi...way to big and looks like a comic's font
NOGC BLAST
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#173 - 2011-11-06 23:59:43 UTC
I don't like the new font at all, fact is I think it's horrible.

However a lot of people seem to like it, and I understand why it needs to be changed, but I don't think this is the right font for the job. In some places it's bulky and very heard to use, in some it's weird looking and heard to read, this font confuses me and it's taking me more time to navigate menus.

I suggest something more like the current font on the live server with some small edits to some letters and numbers that are often confused for each other to make them more clearly different, not changing the the entire font in every menu.

Infact at first I thought my client window had been hacked or something when I saw a cheap looking font, it all looked very botched and I was concerned, and did not want to login for fear of some sort of hacked fake patch.

Clearly that is not the case as I looked it up on the forums here and my fears were put to rest.
But the fact it drew concern means there is something wrong with the change.

I've said my peace, now I will shut up and leave it to CCP.
Sahnay
#174 - 2011-11-07 19:17:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Sahnay
big thanks for putting a stop to the deterioration of thousands of peoples eye-sight;
Celeste Aserad
Carbon Edge Inc
#175 - 2011-11-10 20:04:15 UTC
Awesome! I can't wait to see it in action, dancing across my UI, syncronizing in patterns, readable words!

This will greatly enhance readablility in EVE, as it has been somewhat vacant before.


Also; I kind of miss that square-y-ness that the old font has. It gives a certain "futuristic-space-feeling". From a designers / typographers point of view, that futuristic-space-feeling belongs in EVE. As the UI is designed to be sharp, square and "strict", the font should reflect this as well. The font is just as important part of the UI as any other design element.

Roundness is great, but too much would change the feel of the UI in it's entirety.


I approve highly of a new font. Just giving some constructive criticism.
Keep up the good work!
Zephyru5
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#176 - 2011-11-11 00:03:30 UTC
The old font has more of a EVE, or rather Sci-Fi Tech feel to me. In my opinion, this new font looks atrocious to me; it looks like I'm staring at an essay with a bad font.

Anyway, I do hope there will be an option to use the old or new fonts.
whaynethepain
#177 - 2011-11-15 03:34:06 UTC
Thanks.

I read by the word, and some have been illegible, after a year I could not recognise all of the words in eve font.

I am looking forward to reading a word, rather than saying the letters out like a tard.

And is there any pictures of you I can see please?

Getting you on your feet.

So you've further to fall.
CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
#178 - 2011-11-15 13:22:44 UTC
whaynethepain wrote:
And is there any pictures of you I can see please?


Revenge is mine!! Here is a video of CCP Punkturis giggling while taking a video of me as I'm oblivious to how loud I'm singing in the office, which she then promptly released onto the interwebs. I've been waiting for close to a year to unleash my vengeance and now it tastes so sweet!

CCP Prism X

Programmer on Team Gridlock & Expert Ranter
Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#179 - 2011-11-15 13:24:53 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
whaynethepain wrote:
And is there any pictures of you I can see please?


Revenge is mine!! Here is a video of CCP Punkturis giggling while taking a video of me as I'm oblivious to how loud I'm singing in the office, which she then promptly released onto the interwebs. I've been waiting for close to a year to unleash my vengeance and now it tastes so sweet!



Well...least it wasn't Rick :\
Simvastatin Montelukast
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#180 - 2011-11-15 13:27:21 UTC
is CCP Punkturis the short or tall one?