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What if T3 cruisers were shapeshifters?
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Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#41 - 2013-06-10 19:15:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Stetson Eagle
Subsystems need to go. Just remove them, grant all role abilities to hull through subsystem skills, adjust base values to do all roles worse than t2.

Then grant the ability to fit in space from limited cargohold.

There you go, generalized shapeshifter that does everything on faction ship quality but worse than t2. Easy to balance since subsystems are out of the equation. Worthwile to fly because you can adjust fit between exploration, pve and pvp on the fly.

Edit: t3 skill could reduce cap penalty for onlining new mods to make shapeshifting faster (still takes minutes realistically).
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#42 - 2013-06-10 19:33:12 UTC
Stetson Eagle wrote:
Subsystems need to go.


Why?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#43 - 2013-06-10 20:24:01 UTC
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
I'm suprised Doc hasn't commented in here with his one line troll post...Shocked


Sometimes you have to wait for the things you love P


Gorram it...Doc's letting me down!!!

It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#44 - 2013-06-10 20:43:00 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Stetson Eagle wrote:
Subsystems need to go.


Why?


• they restrict the generalization of t3 as you need to dock up before playing the other roles
• they add an unnecessary layer to the game balance
• they add an unnecessary layer to game complexity; less is more and fitting them is plain tedious
• they add an unnecessary layer of industry and tedious manufacturing
• they do not actually accomplish anything you could not do better by simply fitting more ships and swapping in station
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#45 - 2013-06-10 22:12:03 UTC
Came into thread expecting THIS ... left dissapointed, and I also enjoyed the background music ... if T3s came with music like that during reptilian shapeshifting I would buy all 4 racial ones.

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Tiber Ibis
The Paratwa Ka
#46 - 2013-06-10 22:14:35 UTC
This thread is really productive...... that is, if you are looking for lots and lots of really ridiculous suggestions which are never going to happen :)
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-06-10 22:37:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Forum Clone 77777
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Wodensun wrote:
I'm pretty sure they werent thinking of vampires when they named the proteus...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteus



Pretty sure they were

On Saturday, 11 November 2006, White Wolf and CCP Games, the Icelandic MMO development company responsible for EVE Online, announced a merger between the two companies during the keynote address at the EVE Online Fanfest 2006. It was also revealed that a World of Darkness MMORPG was already in the planning stages.

You realise EVERY other gallente ship is named after greek mythology right?

... **** sake, its obvious to a friggin DOG that its named Proteus after, y'know, Proteus from greek myth.
Gtfo with your vampire twilight crap.
Minty Aroma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-06-10 23:04:11 UTC
What I would like to see is the T3 ships becoming able to take on multiple roles at the same time, but slightly weaker than any one T2 ship's role. Therefore there would be subsystems to make your T3 into a logistics recon ship, which would be weaker at either role than the T2 logistics or recon ship, but would be a pretty cool amalgamation of the 2 requiring new tactics to fly and counter.

Then again, maybe EVE doesn't need something that will complicate it further!
Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
#49 - 2013-06-10 23:13:19 UTC
Horrible idea. Impossible to balance.
Tiber Ibis
The Paratwa Ka
#50 - 2013-06-11 00:20:13 UTC
Minty Aroma wrote:
What I would like to see is the T3 ships becoming able to take on multiple roles at the same time, but slightly weaker than any one T2 ship's role. Therefore there would be subsystems to make your T3 into a logistics recon ship, which would be weaker at either role than the T2 logistics or recon ship, but would be a pretty cool amalgamation of the 2 requiring new tactics to fly and counter.

Then again, maybe EVE doesn't need something that will complicate it further!

I think this is pretty much what they are going to be doing.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#51 - 2013-06-11 00:20:15 UTC
What if the idea in the OP was terrible?

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Velarra
#52 - 2013-06-11 01:41:27 UTC
Would they require Energon cubes as fuel to transform?
Would the visual changes be similar to the current Rorqual?
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