EVE New Citizens Q&A

There is no other way to learn my friend .

Every time you die you should take something from it and improve next time.

Yeah, worry not. There are many players in the game who are **** at PvP, and many players who were **** but got better. As some people have said, even people who are very good at PvP now may have died many, many times as part of the learning process to get good.

My kb is laughable, because the only PvP I do is when I get ganked in missions in low sec through being careless, or (very rarely, when I'm drunk ) when I go into a low sec area actually looking for trouble. But so what?

Since I'm "play EVE to relax" type of person, PvP is not a priority for me so it's never something I sought to learn from the start (20 cheap rifters, etc.), but since PvP is unavoidable in EVE, the longer I'm in the game the more I get used to it, and gradually get better at it. These days, I don't get flustered so much, I remember some of the things I have to do, I'm enjoying it more, and managing to get in some decent damage before I get killed. I'll never be as good as a young "pro" PvP-er with great reflexes, but if I can give a decent account of myself, I'm happy.

It's just time and practice. Actually a big chunk of PvP in EVE is about experience and knowing how to pick your fights - getting to know the ships in the game and their typical fittings, getting to know whether you've got the scissors to their paper or whether you should run. I think those who are really good at PvP, particularly solo and small gang, are people who have been in the game long enough so that they can fly most subcap ships in the game, and know what they're like "from the inside", so when they face that ship, they know intimately what sort of tactics their opponent is likely to use in that ship.

ok, you can't get better, it is all passive gameplay, pvp in eve is dead - you said it in another thread (started by me btw) already. just wipe those big tears off of your face and get back into checkers or sth where you can do solo pvp.

Was not my intention to **** on checkers, used to play a lot with my grandpa when I was a kid and man, he was brutal. He was to me like Goons are to crybabies here - pure mayhem without mercy. You either learn to play and fight back or you lose every time and produce big tears.

One thing that can help a lot with minimizing your loses is to learn about ships. When you know what you are flying and you can tell if ships on your overview are from higher or lower or equal class you have more information to consider should you stay or should you run from them.

This is what I am currently working on but for now I get confused a lot of times and have to google almost every ship I meet. But it is always a problem for a new kid on da block and either you study to know who to avoid or you learn it hard way by getting smashed. For example now I know that hurricane is bad for ya if you are in a thrasher :)

gee... I play computer games, I delude myself already, why to stop halfway?

I see that one more thing I have to learn is how to spot a troll when I see one. I wrote this so obviously I am failing at this too

did you ever play any of MUDs, old school text based MMOs? I had and have to tell you that all you had to do to kill something/somebody was to type "kill" command with some parameters and fight was on. And you could type "drink potion" command to refill your hp or you could type "flee" command to attempt to run from engagement when fight was to hard. or you could just sit and watch lines of text reporting how it is going.

And that was pvp and that was about skills of your character and gear you equipped. No frantic clicking or mouse movements could help you once some monster or stronger player got you.

And how you could get better in MUDs? Learn where you should not go if you were too weak or had no needed gear and learn what you could kill and what you could not kill.

Does it remind you of something? Only difference between those games and Eve is that you character basically can't be killed and once your ship get destroyed there is no need to go there to get your stuff back.

So you are comparing eve online gameplay to a textbased mmo.
Ones again shows im right.
And yes in eve you should learn where to not go, that is low and null sec.


And @malcanis learn to read.
As i said you have close to no influence on your ship movement.

Yes you can align with a object at the right time or orbit at a certain range, only you will not have any influence on how your ship executes that order.
But ah well people here seem to believe a 1 month old player who just got frigate level 5 can kill a 7 year old player also in a frigate.
Both ofc skilling for "pvp".

Yes i know what it does, however since the interface isnt working that great just simply hit approach goes faster.
Its the same as aligning.



Another comment which shows im right, it reguires skills.
And like i said, higher sp and more skills learned allow for better performance on your ship.



And that is why you dont need to be good in this game to be succesfull in pvp.



Those huge amount of hours you play a day allow for better experience and therefor more gamingskills.
Only since this is not the case like you said, it ones again shows im right.



If you are saying that Eve online is a pvp game and one of the best pvp games then you are lying to yourself.
The game can be fun that i dont disagree on, the community is what makes a game good or not.

However saying that you need to practice alot more to get "better" in this game is wrong.
The basics of controls and normal gaming intelligence is all you need to be succesfull in this game, the rest is all about skillpoints and fittings.
And ofc outnumbering your opponents.

Might as well stop arguing with the guy who obviously believes the only real PVP is FPS games. You ain't gonna change his mind, and he isn't going to change yours.