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Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#1 - 2013-06-10 01:59:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Q 5
I'm not ready to sell it yet but as posted before I'm sure a blow by blow analysis has been done, here's my .2iskies,

Did a lvl 3 mission (the blockade), and had to keep warping off in the gnosis, frustrated I sold items to buy a Drake to see if my old pal could ease the frustration a bit....to my most happiest surprise it not only did the job but kicked Gurista posterior maximus, even when jammed I could wait it out.

Upon looking at the gnosis stats with 25% heavy bonus and other bonuses the Drake doesn't have why did it fail me so much, same fit I just stripped the gnosis and transfered over to the Drake.

Is it better to fit a gnosis like a cyclone instead?

What am I missing here...gnosis is no Drake for sure, but I had drone damage mods, more slots to work with...I'm at a loss.

BTW I never had to warp out in my Drake.
Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#2 - 2013-06-10 02:22:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Chris Winter
If you fit the gnosis like any other BC, it will do poorly compared to that other BC. In the case of the Drake, the Gnosis gneeds to get more of its damage from drones, less from missiles (although it can use any damage type, unlike drake). The Gnosis is also hard to passive shield tank compared to the drake--its shield regen is rather terrible. It's doable but requires a different fit from the drake.

An active shield fit may work well, as does active hull. If your drone skills aren't strong but your missile skills are, stick to the drake. Think of the gnosis as basically a drone boat that can fit any type of secondary weapon and any type of tank.
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#3 - 2013-06-10 03:48:25 UTC
Thank you sir, yeah seems kinda like an oddball ship.

guess I'll sell it, as for a mission boat it's not well suited.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2013-06-10 04:48:12 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
It's a free battlecruiser that even a day 1 newbie can fly... and you expected CCP to actually make it good?

edit: you can make a decent fit out of it... but it requires some creativity and compromises.

How did you Veterans start?
Garaba
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-06-10 09:02:29 UTC
I don't know why everyone gripes about the Gnosis. It is actually a pretty decent ship when you compare it to the other BC's. The only problem is that is costs about twice as much, and isn't really "great" at anything but exploration.

Either way, free is free. I will be stocking up on them when the 10th anni boxes get released and the prices drop. 6/6/6 slot layout = dual tanked bait ship whattt?
Darling Hassasin
Parental Control
Didn't want that Sov anyway.
#6 - 2013-06-10 10:27:32 UTC
Garaba wrote:
I don't know why everyone gripes about the Gnosis. It is actually a pretty decent ship when you compare it to the other BC's. The only problem is that is costs about twice as much, and isn't really "great" at anything but exploration.

Either way, free is free. I will be stocking up on them when the 10th anni boxes get released and the prices drop. 6/6/6 slot layout = dual tanked bait ship whattt?


Humongus passive armor with ancillary sbs point web and resists in mids will be hillarious if you can somehow shoehorn it on. The laughter will die out when the cyno pops up...
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#7 - 2013-06-10 13:54:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Q 5
Garaba wrote:
I don't know why everyone gripes about the Gnosis. It is actually a pretty decent ship when you compare it to the other BC's. The only problem is that is costs about twice as much, and isn't really "great" at anything but exploration.

Either way, free is free. I will be stocking up on them when the 10th anni boxes get released and the prices drop. 6/6/6 slot layout = dual tanked bait ship whattt?


To gripe about it? I am trying to understand it's function.

I mainly do lvl 4 missions but seems suited to exploration don't know yet, got to talk with Dora the explorer to see what she thinks.

I stopped doing explorations cause;

1. I don't go into any holes I don't know lest I get V.D.

2. The level of saturation of people running anomalies is redonkoless.

3. Ore found in hidden belts is not worth my time.

4. Gas found in hidden places not worth my time.

5. DED sites in high sec is not worth my time.

6. DED sites in low sec not worth the risk just to entertain others bloodlust.

7. 0.0 will have you being hunted by highly distressed people looking to pad their KM.

8. In nearly every system the masses rule exploration, I don't care for congo lines.

Now see that's a gripe....or grape I forget which one
Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#8 - 2013-06-10 14:08:56 UTC
It can be flown, with weapon and probing bonuses, from day1. I personally dislike this, as it promotes beginners skipping the progression curve.

This makes it a must have for newbies, and the more of them you gank the more valuable they become. If I was to start eve on a new alt, I'd value one at ~2 billion isk were it NPC bought, because it's fun to be able to fly it right from day1.
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#9 - 2013-06-10 15:31:46 UTC
Stetson Eagle wrote:
It can be flown, with weapon and probing bonuses, from day1. I personally dislike this, as it promotes beginners skipping the progression curve.

This makes it a must have for newbies, and the more of them you gank the more valuable they become. If I was to start eve on a new alt, I'd value one at ~2 billion isk were it NPC bought, because it's fun to be able to fly it right from day1.


Maybe I'll sell it as they become more rare.
Alberik
Eusebius Corporation
#10 - 2013-06-10 16:26:56 UTC
Q 5 wrote:

5. DED sites in high sec is not worth my time.




got a worm bpc out of a ded site wich needed about 5 minutes with an assault ship. not that bad for the time invested.
of course its always the random generator .....
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#11 - 2013-06-10 17:46:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Q 5
Alberik wrote:
Q 5 wrote:

5. DED sites in high sec is not worth my time.




got a worm bpc out of a ded site wich needed about 5 minutes with an assault ship. not that bad for the time invested.
of course its always the random generator .....


Nice find! Congratulations, yeah not my cup of expresso, but carry on sir.

I was thinking 4 warp stabilizers in the low, DCU, drone damage mod, shield tank it, put 125's in the highs, a cloak, and probe launcher, armor repair for drones, warriors II, hobgoblin II, ECM drones and you would be pretty hard to pin down in low sec of course won't have much range though.
Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#12 - 2013-06-10 19:44:25 UTC
Q 5 wrote:

I was thinking 4 warp stabilizers in the low

Stop thinking that. warp core stabs will kill your combat ability.
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#13 - 2013-06-10 23:35:40 UTC
Chris Winter wrote:
Q 5 wrote:

I was thinking 4 warp stabilizers in the low

Stop thinking that. warp core stabs will kill your combat ability.


I wish I could but it's better to run away when there is sooooooo many drugged, implanted, remote repped pilots PVP is not an option.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-06-10 23:42:17 UTC
better to just watch your surroundings instead of gimp your fit

Art of Explosions
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#15 - 2013-06-11 00:08:28 UTC
So say 2 warp core stabilizers, I'm just not sure I want to leave myself open to getting pinned down while I PVE.Bear
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-06-11 00:16:18 UTC
Gnosis is a fine ship for doing what it does. Passive tank any bc other than drake or myrm, and you'll get what you got. Doesn't mean anything.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#17 - 2013-06-11 07:22:38 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Q 5 wrote:
So say 2 warp core stabilizers, I'm just not sure I want to leave myself open to getting pinned down while I PVE.Bear

You make sound like it's impossible to PvE in low-sec. Hint; it isn't. Otherwise I wouldn't have so much ISK.

Protip: use PvP fits and tactics (i.e. don't tank and gank in a fat ship when you can kite and range tank in something smaller and more mobile). Watch local chat, keep an eye on the directional scanner, and learn/adapt to the resident's usual tactics (another hint; bet on lazy).

How did you Veterans start?
Garaba
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2013-06-11 08:40:40 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Q 5 wrote:
So say 2 warp core stabilizers, I'm just not sure I want to leave myself open to getting pinned down while I PVE.Bear

You make sound like it's impossible to PvE in low-sec. Hint; it isn't. Otherwise I wouldn't have so much ISK.

Protip: use PvP fits and tactics (i.e. don't tank and gank in a fat ship when you can kite and range tank in something smaller and more mobile). Watch local chat, keep an eye on the directional scanner, and learn/adapt to the resident's usual tactics (another hint; bet on lazy).



Another tip is to check the sov stats on a system to see how many ships/pods have been killed that day. This is a great trick for seeing how "hot" a system is for PvP. If you see a LS system with a lot of ship and pod kills you can assume a small roaming group with something to insta-lock your pod. If you see a null system with lots of ship/pod kills you can assume bubbles/gate camps out the ass.
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
#19 - 2013-06-11 14:48:15 UTC
Q 5 wrote:
Alberik wrote:
Q 5 wrote:

5. DED sites in high sec is not worth my time.




got a worm bpc out of a ded site wich needed about 5 minutes with an assault ship. not that bad for the time invested.
of course its always the random generator .....


Nice find! Congratulations, yeah not my cup of expresso, but carry on sir.

I was thinking 4 warp stabilizers in the low, DCU, drone damage mod, shield tank it, put 125's in the highs, a cloak, and probe launcher, armor repair for drones, warriors II, hobgoblin II, ECM drones and you would be pretty hard to pin down in low sec of course won't have much range though.


Because lowsec pirates would never use Kereses, Arazus, Proteuses or hictors just to leave nothing to chance wrt tackling an explorer...
Boomhaur
#20 - 2013-06-12 01:31:30 UTC
Off hand one of the most annoying things I find about the Gnossis is the resists 27.5% across the board for shield and 32.5% for armor. It makes things a bit more difficult to min/max for PVE in my opinion as I tend to exploit the ships built in resists.

You also had to warp out from battle more in the Gnossis compared to the Drake because the Drake can tank a lot better, in fact it is known for that.

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