Jita Park Speakers Corner

...or a big problem, or some interesting insight or a warning you want to make, and naturally you want your elected representatives to advocate your thoughts to CCP.

The first thing you'll want to understand is how the CSM spends its time interacting with CCP and the other CSMs.

We probably spend about half our "Skype time" talking to each other and to the people in the CSM Alumni channel.

Of the time that we spend talking with CCP employees, we probably spend ~90% discussing what they're doing or thinking of doing, or asking for perspectives on, or just commenting between each other on how things worked out.

Of the remaining 10%, we spend half or more advocating our own hot-button issues and viewpoints.

That leaves maybe 1-3 times per week that we might mention an idea that some guy on the forum mentioned.

Compare that figure to the dozens, probably hundreds of posts that will be made in that time by people who have a great idea, a problem, an insight or a concern. From the raw statistics alone, you've got about a 1% chance of your proposal even being mentioned to CCP. The good news is, you can increase your chances, and I say this as someone who's had several successes getting idea implemented outside the CSM. The bad news is, it's going to take some work. And by some, I mean a lot.

Here is an example of a basically good idea that will have approximately a 0.0% chance: "CSM Y U NO MAEK MORE RATS CLEVERAR RATTING IS BORING".

Ratting is boring, rats should be cleverer. The proposal is essentially correct and a good one, but as written this proposal won't be considered for a microsecond, because fundamentally, zero work has been put into it. If a CSM member is going to put the necessary work to get this proposal to be even looked at, why wouldn't he put that work into one of his own ideas and advocate that instead?

If you want the CSM to advocate your idea, then you need to do as much work as possible along the following lines. The better you do this, the more chance you have of persuading the CSM (and in turn CCP) that you're serious about your idea, that it's a good one, and that it's worth their while to consider.

(1) Identify a problem or an opportunity

(2) Propose a solution

(3) Explain how your solution would solve the problem/grasp the opportunity

(4) Identify possible issues/exploits with your solution

(5) Suggest ways to mitigate, circumvent or deal with those issues.

(6) Put in a bit about how your idea will either help Acquire new players or Retain existing ones. (Ideally, both!)

(7) Get lots of other people to support, comment on and offer various perspectives. Don't get supermad when someone points out a problem you hadn't thought of. Discuss it and incorporate the discussion into part (5). If someone points out some issue that's basically the death of your idea, suck it up.

(8) Accept that even if you do all that, and even if all the CSM like it and even if some devs at CCP like it, there's only a small chance that your proposal will be implemented. Ideas are cheap; dev resources are not. Furthermore, your idea might be the preserve of a team that's got an incompatible idea of their own, or they just don't have time, or they don't really talk to the CSM much, or it doesn't support the direction they're going with at this time.

Try and put some thought into structuring your idea so that it takes the minimum resources to implement, or at least so that it doesn't all have to be implemented as a monolithic entity, but can be partially implemented and then iterated on further at a later time.

Good comment there.

Apparently it's uncomfortable and sometimes even a little painful the first time, and after that it usually feels pretty good.

This is a very good post, too bad the people that will likely rage at you guys won't read it...

So after a player does all the work you described; what are the odds of there being an official confirmation from CCP that there has been discussion about the subject between the CSM and CCP?

Good luck with your project.

1) Identify a problem or an opportunity

Theres too many stations

(2) Propose a solution

Let us blow them up, all the way up, not derelicts, completely gone, scoured from space
(3) Explain how your solution would solve the problem/grasp the opportunity
Self explanatory


(4) Identify possible issues/exploits with your solution

People will cry when we blow up their station

(5) Suggest ways to mitigate, circumvent or deal with those issues.

Get a spine, it will mitigate #4

(6) Put in a bit about how your idea will either help Acquire new players or Retain existing ones. (Ideally, both!)

This will allow you to craft the space you take in your image, and not have to own space that was crafted by some guy who owned the space 7 years before you played EVE.


(7) Get lots of other people to support, comment on and offer various perspectives

People have been asking for this forever, its supported.


Now, please go motivate CCP, tia.