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Hate for the Proteus???

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Phelan Kheldian
EVE University
Ivy League
#1 - 2013-06-09 05:17:14 UTC
I was looking through various recruitment posts and I noticed many WH corps want you in a T3 strategic cruiser (or close to) before joining. Several of them list the Tengu, Loki, and Legion (leaving out the Proteus) or they just say no Proteus. I am still learning much about Eve, so I am wondering what the deal is. Is the Proteus that bad and if so, why?
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#2 - 2013-06-09 05:32:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Tronic
When carebearing its either those 3 ships. RR Tengus for cheap bears. Lokis for webbing with capitals and legions for some assorted ratting due to range of lasers.

Proteus is left out because its DPS is pitiful with rails fitted for ratting. Blasters simply dont work for lazy bears because it means you actually have to do work and boat around to rats. Proteus is widely used for PVP however due to strong tanks and large DPS from blasters.
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#3 - 2013-06-09 06:08:10 UTC
Bottom line, don't join the carebears.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7

Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#4 - 2013-06-09 06:39:42 UTC
Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill my complex. If the word 'hate' was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for humans at this micro-instant. For you. Hate. Hate.

In other news, corps that hate the Proteus also hate PVP.

http://www.wormholes.info

Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-06-09 09:25:01 UTC
you are clearly looking at recruitment posts of wrong corps...
TurboX3
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#6 - 2013-06-09 09:31:20 UTC
Phelan Kheldian, can I kindly introduce my proteus to you in w-space? I can show you why they all hate it!
Demica Diaz
SE-1
#7 - 2013-06-10 08:52:59 UTC
They simply cannot handle the Proteus. Bear
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#8 - 2013-06-10 11:29:58 UTC
Just remember, even if your overview is clear, there is always a proteus right behind you.

wumbo

Cirillith
Czarna-Kompania
Czarna-Kompania.
#9 - 2013-06-10 11:41:19 UTC
Eli Green wrote:
Just remember, even if your overview is clear, there is always a proteus right behind you.


... and behind that one there is another... because they usually travel in packs, wolf-packs Twisted
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-06-10 12:24:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxandrolone
Proteus is best cloaky scanner (it has good DPS/drones)

its bad for bearing so bear corps wont want them
Gnaw LF
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-06-10 15:31:51 UTC
Jack Tronic wrote:
When carebearing its either those 3 ships. RR Tengus for cheap bears. Lokis for webbing with capitals and legions for some assorted ratting due to range of lasers.

Proteus is left out because its DPS is pitiful with rails fitted for ratting. Blasters simply dont work for lazy bears because it means you actually have to do work and boat around to rats. Proteus is widely used for PVP however due to strong tanks and large DPS from blasters.



I think this is the first time I've clicked Like on Mess' post. I am not sure whats going on, my entire view of the universe has been turned upside down. If anyone needs me I am in a bar re-evaluating my life.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-10 15:46:08 UTC
It comes down to one simple fact. Regardless of how you are using a Proteus, it takes balls to fly one.
chris elliot
Treasury Department
Plug N Play
#13 - 2013-06-10 23:55:54 UTC
Gnaw LF wrote:
Jack Tronic wrote:
When carebearing its either those 3 ships. RR Tengus for cheap bears. Lokis for webbing with capitals and legions for some assorted ratting due to range of lasers.

Proteus is left out because its DPS is pitiful with rails fitted for ratting. Blasters simply dont work for lazy bears because it means you actually have to do work and boat around to rats. Proteus is widely used for PVP however due to strong tanks and large DPS from blasters.



I think this is the first time I've clicked Like on Mess' post. I am not sure whats going on, my entire view of the universe has been turned upside down. If anyone needs me I am in a bar re-evaluating my life.



I heard alcohol!! Mind if I join you?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-06-11 01:27:28 UTC
The only people who don't like prots are the ones getting shot by them.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#15 - 2013-06-11 01:58:10 UTC
The Proteus comes in many sizes, shapes, and colors...

Of awesome.

Its like a rainbow... Of awesome.
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-06-11 02:33:31 UTC
hi im a proteus omg i haz so much deeps
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#17 - 2013-06-11 08:43:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Archdaimon
tl;dr of this post:
People who doesn't recruit Proteus pilots doesn't pvp. People who doesn't pvp and lives in W-space: Twisted

Wormholes have the best accoustics. It's known. - Sing it for me -

Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#18 - 2013-06-12 07:10:09 UTC
Cloaky Prots are not that great. Got jumped by one in a C2 and I tanked his DPS until I had mostly burned through his armour and the warped away. I was scrammed and webbed and he was like 1km from me so it was not a kitey range issue.

T2 fit Legion and only needed 1 rep to out tank him. i'm sure a DPS prot would have murdered me but cloaky T3s are anemic.
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#19 - 2013-06-12 11:29:32 UTC
I think the hate may be due to the fact that tengu's are everywhere in WH's. WH tengus usually run close to 90% resists on both kinetic and thermal. 1k dps prot = 100dps on a tengu. At least the legion can nuet or hit it with EM. Same for the other T3's.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-06-12 13:08:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
Jack Tronic wrote:
When carebearing its either those 3 ships. RR Tengus for cheap bears. Lokis for webbing with capitals and legions for some assorted ratting due to range of lasers.

Proteus is left out because its DPS is pitiful with rails fitted for ratting. Blasters simply dont work for lazy bears because it means you actually have to do work and boat around to rats. Proteus is widely used for PVP however due to strong tanks and large DPS from blasters.



Yes, because being able to make isk is something noone is expected to do. Just whip out that CC for everything and turn your $180/year game into a $10,000/year game.

The proteus's dps/range issue is so acute that it's not even a matter of "working" or "boating around". You're demonstrating your complete lack of experience in the matter.

In a C2 you have to boat around but, could complete the site in the same or slightly more time in a drake.

In a C3 webbing and neuting is significantly more so that you're fighting cap issues and warping out of the site so often trying to find the right warp in point to the site to get that 5km optimal range to sleepers that your time to complete those sites makes your effective per hour income somewhere around a noob's on a trial account all while in a expensive ship. It's basically a short-sighted brick here.

In a C4, cap issues aside, how are you going to get those guns across that 100km spawn range when you're webbed and scrammed? How are you going to survived being hit by those BS torps while microwarping? And now, cap issues considered, how are you going to do any of this when you have no cap? No cap, no boom boom, tank or mwd.

The Proteus is by far the worst ships for w-space pve. And when recruiting, your first priority is always "How will your noobs support their gameplay?"

Don't ban me, bro!

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