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CCP - Observe Your Audience's Emotional Involvement

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-06-09 16:41:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
I have not logged in for a good long while. My reasons for not, are various and irrelevant to this post. Evidently, unless I am missing something... there will never be an epic log in screen for EVE Online again. The new launcher (at lease to me seems to have) eliminated the epic log in page.





This Brings Me To My Important Topic (worthy of trolling no doubt)


An audience is a fan base. Be it a cult following for a movie or a video game, it does not matter. A fan base has an invested emotional involvement in a product/production. A log in screen is a big part of EVE's emotional involvement. A new expansion comes and we are greeted with a new and awesome log in animation. It makes us feel like we are in a new version of the same old tired universe and it compels us (or tricks us) to continue playing.


Such things reinforce an emotional investment. An investment that your revenue is based upon and yet your business model does not seem to fully comprehend.


A Jukebox and colorful asteroids were also a part of many individual's emotional investment. Simple things like engine trails, which were taken out and then returned, are another example of emotional investments.



Arrow Golden Amarr ships was another big one (pilots emotionally invest in their race)
Arrow Geometric lights on alien-looking worlds (not earth-moon-mars look-alikes)
Arrow Black not military (stupid) green Navy Megathrons were an emotional investment.
(I remember when I started how awesome the solid black silhouette of a navy raven looked and how much I wanted to mission in one)



These are just some basic examples. Another one is our old portraits. No matter how hard we tried we could not come close to making our new ones look even remotely like our old ones. The Amarr had some pretty cool head dresses that I don't think they have anymore, and Eternum here was defined by a cool set of forehead tattoos. Not face tattoos, not why-do-i-need-ray-ban-sunglasses-in-space....but jagged, solid black tattoos on my forehead. I was emotionally invested in the appearance of my character. Hell, even the old style of the old forums were an emotional investment to many. It is a simlpe thing I know. It may even be a stupid thing, but is is a very real thing.





So...

If there is a setting that will allow me to see a log in animation again I would love for someone to tell me about it. If not, I will just add it to the list of emotional investments that have been removed from the game. Just in case anyone of relevance at CCP ever reads this thread, I will offer you a small (and humble) pearl of wisdom for you to consider.



"Enhancing something does not mean changing it's original form. If you deviat from the original inspiration then you have not enhanced the original inspiration, you have only changed it. "




Now you may not care to consider this and adapt your current business model. But consider the following. A truly great idea is like lightning in a bottle and it does not come very often in a lifetime. You need to try and stay true to it, because if you change it you may end up altering what made it that "special something" in the first place. You may end up mutating it into something that was not so charming, inspiring and/or all around "more then the sum of it's parts".




End post.


Oh, and while I am at it... changing the EVE Menu design after how many years? Bad, bad idea. I still have not gotten used to the assets options in station. Every-time I try to mess with it , it reminds me that "this eve" is not the same eve as I originally subscribed to more then half a decade ago.

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Amanda Chelian
#2 - 2013-06-09 16:47:43 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
So...

If there is a setting that will allow me to see a log in animation again I would love for someone to tell me about it. If not, I will just add it to the list of emotional investments that have been removed from the game. Just in case anyone of relevance at CCP ever reads this thread, I will offer you a small (and humble) pearl of wisdom for you to consider.


You can still get a log-in screen if you launch the gave via the exefile.exe in EVE/bin, but the current screen is generic, having no relation to the current expansion at all.
Lexmana
#3 - 2013-06-09 16:49:04 UTC
TLDR it all but I also think CCP made a mistake removing the login screen. It was iconic and brought a nice feel to the game and since I am on a Mac I still have a generic login screen (not the same thing) but most importantly I hear Aura confirming when I connect to TQ. I will miss that.

I hope they try to do something with the character selection screen or introduce a full screen launcher that resembles the old login.
iskflakes
#4 - 2013-06-09 16:50:16 UTC
Maybe people will get emotionally attached to the launcher instead?

hahahahaha

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-06-09 16:54:01 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
Maybe people will get emotionally attached to the launcher instead?

hahahahaha



You appear to have someone's stupid idea sticking out of your eye Blink

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-06-09 16:55:32 UTC
People's emotional involvement concerning their favourite space ship game is too damn high.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-06-09 16:59:12 UTC
I didn't actually read it but I saw "stupid green navy megas" and +1d.

Dodixie > Hek

Solhild
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-06-09 17:00:23 UTC
You are not even remotely alone in this. Thread of truth.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-06-09 17:02:45 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
I didn't actually read it but I saw "stupid green navy megas" and +1d.


I read it.
It was actually well written and a good read, although I found the passive-aggressive tone a little too much for my personal liking.
But EP has a point, and a good one.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Arcelian
0nus
#10 - 2013-06-09 17:03:31 UTC
Gotta agree, no login screen blows. Blows hard.

It's losing that moment of awesomeness, where I'm like, ok, here we go.
Sister Sophia
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-06-09 17:06:22 UTC
Wow. Amazing post.

Yah, I totally remember always looking forward to the next login screen to see what it would look like. Some were fantastic. I remember sometimes on the dynamic ones I'd actually watch through the whole animation to see that tiny little spaceship in the background. I'm going to feel the loss for sure.

Reminds me of those lines in English Patient.... "I don't miss you yet. // You will.... you will...."

One other thing that they have taken out (to which I was pretty attached) were the daily news updates on login. I used to love to see RL reflected weirdly or completely transposed in that crooked mirror. You'd get assassinations in Khanid, riots in Gallente, and puppet trials in Caldari. I always felt like I was logging into a dynamic political simulation. I didn't actually live in empire but I still read it. That's gone too now.

Bling doesn't compensate for content.
Ze4K DK
Luxury Yacht Social Club
#12 - 2013-06-09 17:06:48 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
Maybe people will get emotionally attached to the launcher instead?

hahahahaha


+1 made me laugh Big smile
The Forum Alt
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-06-09 17:07:53 UTC
tl;dr - Stealth EvE is dying thread?
Sister Sophia
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-06-09 17:09:55 UTC
The Forum Alt wrote:
tl;dr - Stealth EvE is dying thread?


Nah. More like a "we love this game, please don't break our favourite toy" tread. Big smile
Lexmana
#15 - 2013-06-09 17:13:48 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
Maybe people will get emotionally attached to the launcher instead?

hahahahaha

I hear many of them already are but not always the emotion you want them to have ... or maybe it is.
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#16 - 2013-06-09 17:17:53 UTC
I read the whole thing, and although the launcher didn't bother me, the OP has a point and he made me realize how powerful the loading screens of the past were and I thought back and realized I did have an emotional response to it, something along the lines of awe and sensing a feel of vast power emanating from it and yes, it did make me want to log on.

+ 1 OP.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

Embarado
Wolves Ressurection
#17 - 2013-06-09 17:23:30 UTC
I too, hate space camouflage.

"there is no old system anymore" -CCP BunnyVirus

iskflakes
#18 - 2013-06-09 17:44:16 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
You appear to have someone's stupid idea sticking out of your eye Blink


All the better to troll you with...

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Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-06-09 18:00:27 UTC
Good read EP.

Besides CCP removing the emotional attachment, it does seem they are also removing any emotional reaction causing ideas or items that someone might take offense to. When I first started, one of my early missions with the Caldari Navy was to obtain a large stash of drugs to keep their pilots on edge. And Amarrians were very keen on keeping their Minmatar slaves in line. But with today's game, drugs and slaves are rarely mentioned by players and never by the gaming universe.

Remember when modules had individual names but CCP felt that exponential, limited, and prototype would be much more practical so people would not be confused?

Or is CCP desiring to cater to the dumbest player and making sure he or she will not feel offended and thus making everything "sterile"?
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-06-09 18:05:21 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
I fear change.

TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages

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