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What Eve has taught me - what has it taught you?

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Forum Puppet
Black Wormholes of Apocrypha
TOGETHER WE STAND
#121 - 2013-06-06 05:29:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Forum Puppet
Andski wrote:
Good to see that somebody recognizes the fact that this game punishes those who put in effort and take risks while rewarding the lazy, risk-averse types.


yeah dk why dont all the players love to be scammed by the goons. I wonder how many people were discouraged to try nullsec after fallling for one of those rental scams of yours.

also, never saw a goon honoring a 1v1. To my experience, goons only pvp when they are 5v1. So they are REALLY fond of taking risks.
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#122 - 2013-06-06 06:51:10 UTC
Andski wrote:
Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:
I make a heap load of isk in null. You're doing it wrong.


For the majority of people (not everyone can do industry or trade because of the way those things work), highsec incursion running is far superior to 0.0 anomaly running. It's because CCP has nerfed nullsec into the ground because they can't stand the fact that nullseccers are creating content instead of contributing absolutely nothing to the game in highsec.

^ This
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#123 - 2013-06-06 08:36:57 UTC
Love the entries people but I would really like this to remain on-track and that was as the title suggests - Eve has taught you something or many things - what is/are they?

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#124 - 2013-06-06 09:13:49 UTC
Klandi wrote:
Love the entries people but I would really like this to remain on-track and that was as the title suggests - Eve has taught you something or many things - what is/are they?


I'd say that the single biggest thing I've taken from EVE is how to take risks intelligently.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Amarra Mandalin
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#125 - 2013-06-06 16:33:07 UTC
Ah, OK, we're back on topic.. Let me revise my answer then. though EVE has taught me some interesting things about human behavior.

I think one of the biggest thing is the benefit of stepping out of your comfort zone -- taking chances and seeing the rewards (and entertaining failures) for doing so. Since I'm not about to take up mountain climbing, I think trying various things from solo roams in null to tackling ships that can kill me has been a big thrill and learning experience. I hate dying in single-player games, so I'm glad to find I had it in me.

That, and I've gained far more appreciation for what it takes to run a successful player corporation, let alone an alliance.

There's more but another thing I learned in EVE is that I suck at time management and will be late for a not so important date.
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#126 - 2013-06-07 09:14:19 UTC
Another thing that Eve has taught me is that preparation is key to many aspects of the game. The underlying complexity of the products has taught me to look at situations in a different light in RL and revise my time to resolution accordingly.

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#127 - 2013-06-07 09:20:04 UTC
Forum Puppet wrote:
Andski wrote:
Good to see that somebody recognizes the fact that this game punishes those who put in effort and take risks while rewarding the lazy, risk-averse types.

yeah dk why dont all the players love to be scammed by the goons. I wonder how many people were discouraged to try nullsec after fallling for one of those rental scams of yours.

also, never saw a goon honoring a 1v1. To my experience, goons only pvp when they are 5v1. So they are REALLY fond of taking risks.

You've never tried duelling Boat, have you?

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blood spine
Infinity Engine
#128 - 2013-06-07 10:38:56 UTC
Assuming that the Op has still reading this.

Have you ever tried Wormholes as I didn't see WH space mentioned in your post.

Sure anything below class 5 Any carrier that was built in the WH would be stuck there but C5 and C6 allows the carrier to be jumped back out into K-space again. also you can preity much do anything you want in WH's apart from mine Ice or anything that requires holding SOV.
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#129 - 2013-06-07 11:22:35 UTC
Yes blood - pls refer to post #90

Question is - what has living in WH space taught you?

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
blood spine
Infinity Engine
#130 - 2013-06-07 11:29:32 UTC
Klandi wrote:
Yes blood - pls refer to post #90

Question is - what has living in WH space taught you?


sorry dident see post 90 honistly what WH's have taught me is:

No local makes eve better
It is nott impossible to have your own little patch of space
Small gang pvp is the way to go
I dont have to be a small cog in a huge machine
Sleepers are F***ing Bast**** but amazing to fight
D-Scan is essental
Skills that can be used in VR and RL leadership (fleet fights and running a cop Ect)
Null Isent the be all and end all
To Harden The Fu** Up (HTFU)
Caps are not the best things since sliced bread
PVP is awesome
and lastly how not to be a carebear :D
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#131 - 2013-06-07 13:08:42 UTC
Andski wrote:
Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:
I make a heap load of isk in null. You're doing it wrong.


For the majority of people (not everyone can do industry or trade because of the way those things work), highsec incursion running is far superior to 0.0 anomaly running. It's because CCP has nerfed nullsec into the ground because they can't stand the fact that nullseccers are creating content instead of contributing absolutely nothing to the game in highsec.



Or the fact people bypass the fleet aspect when running Anoms and are in a fleet of 7-40 to do incursions.

It only lends to fleet > solo.

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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#132 - 2013-06-07 13:46:57 UTC
Murk - is there a lesson to be learnt from that? (see what I'm doing here - making you part of the solution instead of just reporting a problem)

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
Theodore Giumbix
Doomheim
#133 - 2013-06-09 07:17:11 UTC
Klandi wrote:
What has Eve taught you?

That a sandbox game combined with kids and uneducated people always sucks.
That EVE is less about a space simulator and more a game about politics and hatred. When I play a game I want a break from RL, but soo many people want to bring RL into EVE.. tired of all BS and politics in this game.

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#134 - 2013-06-09 11:02:02 UTC
Interesting Theo

Taking on board everything you have said and not judging you or your interpretation of the game - I would like to say that people will always fit into the categories you describe. The chance of finding more of these type of people in WoW is higher - because more play it and the crowd is less mature than Eve. LoTRO is the same.

If this is a big issue for you - what solution do you see to improve the situation?

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#135 - 2013-06-09 11:08:41 UTC
Theodore Giumbix wrote:
Klandi wrote:
What has Eve taught you?

That a sandbox game combined with kids and uneducated people always sucks.
That EVE is less about a space simulator and more a game about politics and hatred. When I play a game I want a break from RL, but soo many people want to bring RL into EVE.. tired of all BS and politics in this game.


So I guess EVE has taught you quite a lot about human nature.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#136 - 2013-06-09 11:34:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Adela Talvanen
Eve has taught me it's just an expanded Elite, in a bigger more complex, and attractive setting, played with lots of like minded gamers, but is just another multiplayer game.

Eve is light entertainment on a Sunday afternoon, or when you have free time, and a way to pass the time playing at being an astronaut.

Anyone who thinks that Eve is more then just a game needs to get out more.
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#137 - 2013-06-09 12:24:10 UTC
Fair enough Adela - I understand where you are coming from, however, things we "play" at can also help us with other activities and research has shown that various computer based activities do have significant impact in other areas - notably around eye-hand coordination.
It is just a game and it also can be more than that.
It can teach responsibility, trust, interaction in a variety of situations and provide excitement while doing it. It is amazing how the pixels get value, but they do and they lead to reactions - some which help, other that do not.

I am thinking that there is a bit of that there for every Eve player. The interaction is what I come back to this game for as I suspect do you.

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
Bimbi Norris
No You Dont
Gnomes Rising HoA
#138 - 2013-06-09 13:42:38 UTC
That all your queenships are belong to me
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#139 - 2013-06-09 13:50:10 UTC
I have never needed the slightest help in hand eye coordination from Eve in my RL.

FPS's can claim the same, and a game like Arma can also get your brain working as Eve does.

As for 'responsibility, trust, interaction' , I'm a full time Carer for Dad, and nothing I get from Eve helps with that, I don't trust anyone in this game as your buddy can and would be a bad stabber in this game, and I interact with enough people in RL to gain any help from Eve.

I come back to Eve as it's a chance to play astronaut with other people, and re-lives something like the fun I had playing Elite a long long time ago.

But Eve isn't the be all that some threads here make it out to be, as it's just a space game we play to entertain ourselves and forget our RL for a bit.
Amarra Mandalin
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#140 - 2013-06-09 13:55:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarra Mandalin
Theodore Giumbix wrote:
Klandi wrote:
What has Eve taught you?

That a sandbox game combined with kids and uneducated people always sucks.
That EVE is less about a space simulator and more a game about politics and hatred. When I play a game I want a break from RL, but soo many people want to bring RL into EVE.. tired of all BS and politics in this game.



Klandi wrote:
Interesting Theo

Taking on board everything you have said and not judging you or your interpretation of the game - I would like to say that people will always fit into the categories you describe. The chance of finding more of these type of people in WoW is higher - because more play it and the crowd is less mature than Eve. LoTRO is the same.

If this is a big issue for you - what solution do you see to improve the situation?



I have to disagree, in part. I found people have a far lower tolerance threshold elsewhere (at least in SWTOR) for real life topics. And, man, for all of EVE players' faults, did I miss Local there -- where smack is at least variably entertaining and intelligent at times.

I also missed discussions of relative substance in corp/guild.

Albeit, some people consider debate/serious topics as drama/buzzkill and don't care for it too much and I recognize there is a time & place for that too.