EVE General Discussion

Suicide gankers aren't going to hang out for four hours to find ice fields full of max-yield skiffs.

They will head out to asteroid belts instead since those belts are always around.

If anyone is interested in finding out when the skff fleet is there I will notify them with pleasure :)

cause then my isk is going to the people who are forcing me out of the ice field ide rather struggle on and turn isk into them getting ganked.

who cares? you spend less time obtaining ice products and/or end up with a fatter wallet.

alternatively, osmon isn't the only ice system in the forge.

That would never happen. They rather come to the forums and cry about the changes. These people usually say stuff like "Someone should do something against X" - where X being whatever disturbs their easy ISK making.

No problems out where I am. At all. Plenty of Ice. You think Ice Miners are going to shoot the competition out of business ? Yeah right.

You will get a rather boring show.

i doubt it, i can't see how the security loss of repeatedly ganking miners outweighs just training another miner and mining the ice out from under them.

Why would High Sec Industrial Corps suddenly go to war with each other when for the past 10 years it has been mostly cooperative play? This has never been a group that rocks the boat with other players.

Outside of Caldari Space, especially within 10 jumps from Jita, there is plenty of Ice, and if one misses out, it's not long till a re-spawn anyway. And anytime after 1800 Peak Time there is hardly anyone Ice Mining anyway.

100% agree i want to laugh it up at how much money ccp loses with the mass canceling of those accounts.
I am almost 100% certain this change will result in eve becoming a FTP game

When dude with 20 accounts cant mine ice anymore
guess what he will cancel all of them Now multiply that by 1000x
I applaud ccp at trying to address the problem but its far to late now and they ignored it for way too long.

I hope ccp can live on 20% less income that's my bet for accounts lost in this change.
Login are high right now as always with any new expac give this change 3 months and i bet there under 25k again as most of the afk and bot miners will have quit

Think if you had 20 accounts paying with plex and this change happen i would say there is a 99% chance your canceling and not buying anymore plex.


I guess ccp is going to learn a good lesson you can do the right thing and still finish last


PS; I stock piled 3 years of ice for my use after 7 years i know ccp fuks up there game more with every expac. i almost laugh about it now wtf are these dummies going to do this year i have to counter =)

There are many players with 20+ accounts
I would say one ice belt in empire might support 2 of these players the rest are going to get little to no ice and will cancel

i have been watching this change closely, about 40 players or 2 squads can take down a belt in less than 1.5 hours it then takes another 4 hours to re-spawn. during that time anyone who logs on to mine is SOL that mechanic will = account cancels

Granted eve is a game that fudges its economy to make it work, this change gives ccp another mechanic to control the economy. CCP can easily scale ice by increasing often belt spawn or amount of ice that spawns in the belt.
In the end the only rational explanation for this change ccp wants control of this resource and the ability to tweak or fudge the books to keep the economy from crashing. I have feeling if the prices go above what ccp economists wanted they will increase how much ice we get for now its seems they want to dwindle the stock piles people have and stop the price of ice from falling anymore as the demand plummets