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New Armageddon for pve
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#1 - 2013-06-08 21:04:32 UTC
Hi,
I'm Amarr pilot (in amarr space specing in amarr ships etc..) and mostly until now I've used amarr drone boats (Dragoon > Arbitrator > prophecy) but I took short break and never made it into battleships or L4 missions etc.

anyway as my main DPS skills is on drones tree and I got some basic skills in gunnery tree but not much I would like to ask your help on what I should do in order to be able to solo L4 with the new Dragoon wannabe BS "Armageddon". thanks!
Cpt Arareb
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-06-08 22:12:47 UTC
get 1000 dps or more between tank and firepower, if you are capstable, your doing it wrong, goodluckCool
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2013-06-08 23:35:00 UTC
Thanks to the new EFT, I'm finally able to fiddle around with fits. Came up with a MJD sentry Armageddon that uses rapid light launchers as anti frigate weapons. It's a bit tight on the fit but with both distance and the simple tank you should be able to kill everything before it kills you. Bit tight on CPU though. The drone bay is filled with all sorts of stuff, Curators don't work on all rats, so maybe pack a few bouncers or wardens instead. I think it will be fun to fly.

[Armageddon, PvE]
Large Armor Repairer II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

100MN Afterburner II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Large Ionic Field Projector I

Garde II x5
Curator II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Ginger Barbarella
#4 - 2013-06-08 23:41:09 UTC
Cpt Arareb wrote:
get 1000 dps or more between tank and firepower, if you are capstable, your doing it wrong, goodluckCool


What??? That didn't even make any sense...

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Kosetzu
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#5 - 2013-06-09 00:21:53 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:


[Armageddon, PvE]
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile

What did I just see Shocked
Sanadras Riahn
Turbo Nuclear Pirate Punch
#6 - 2013-06-09 00:22:56 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Cpt Arareb wrote:
get 1000 dps or more between tank and firepower, if you are capstable, your doing it wrong, goodluckCool


What??? That didn't even make any sense...


Not certain where you're confused.

"Make sure that the DPS that you're able to put out and the DPS that you're able to tank adds up to 1000 or more. If you're fitting for cap stability, you can do it better. Good luck."

Tradition defines and shapes a person, but should be evaluated frequently; far too often does Tradition no longer help, but hobble a person and stunt their growth. Especially a Capsuleer.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#7 - 2013-06-09 01:07:50 UTC
Kosetzu wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:


[Armageddon, PvE]
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile

What did I just see Shocked

Unbonused launchers that barely add anything to the DPS anyway and as such are more useful to go against frigates than switching the drones, which are your primary weapon system and aiming at cruiser and up. Really, putting cruise launchers in there is just a waste of precious CPU.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Vexidious
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-06-09 01:33:23 UTC
Just fly a Dominix.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-06-09 02:09:59 UTC
Kosetzu wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:


[Armageddon, PvE]
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile

What did I just see Shocked

frankly, i'd probably even put FoFs in there, just so you REALLY don't have to worry about frigs.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#10 - 2013-06-09 02:39:56 UTC
This thing can do well with NOS for pve due to the bonus range. Shocked
You won't need 2 drone link augmentors.

Cruise missile fit. (( select damage type and no cap use, AC's 2nd choice for those who only use guns ))

Add 3 drone damage mods.

Both shield and armor can be done after that.

Don't be scared to pay for faction or c-type repair or booster.

Those going shield fit will need to use co-processors.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#11 - 2013-06-09 03:23:30 UTC
I got mostly armor tanking skills not so many sheild tanking skills.

the idea for FoF Rapid light missile launchers sounds kinda good as anti frig weapon cause I don't have enough skills to use large guns or even medium missiles.

friend in my guild tipped me to use MJD and then sent back with sentry drones until something gets too close and then jump around. what do you think?
Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
#12 - 2013-06-09 07:16:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Meiyang Lee
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
I got mostly armor tanking skills not so many sheild tanking skills.

the idea for FoF Rapid light missile launchers sounds kinda good as anti frig weapon cause I don't have enough skills to use large guns or even medium missiles.

friend in my guild tipped me to use MJD and then sent back with sentry drones until something gets too close and then jump around. what do you think?


MJD - Sentry sniping probably works just fine. This will probably make the rapid-light launchers useless though, so perhaps get some cruise launchers in there instead, as they hit smaller targets reasonably well, and have phenomenal range. Smile

Just make sure your hardeners are as enemy specific as possible (maximum tank against their primary damage types, rather than omni), just in case they get into range to fire at you.

Having said all that, are your skills up to the task of flying a BS, those support skills are fairly boring, I'll admit, but they're vital for flying the big slow fat targets that are battleships. Blink

With the MJD you can escape most the of the time I imagine, but your ship will be very slow compared to something like a battlecruiser.