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Relic and Data Hacking
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Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-08 14:40:05 UTC
Any tips on how to hack better? are there skills making it easier? 2 times failed and the can disappears

Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.  Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!!
Annunaki soldier
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-06-08 14:44:57 UTC
Yeah. Train the search forums skill. At level one you will be amazed with the result

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imbaRabbit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-08 15:35:50 UTC
Annunaki soldier wrote:
Yeah. Train the search forums skill. At level one you will be amazed with the result

The creativity in this one is awesome :D!
Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-06-08 16:14:38 UTC
Creative yes. He's a bit of a tool for not just giving me some direction. Sure I can read the forums and I do. I posted to see if I could get any specific advice without having to scan through a hundred posts. My way is better.

Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.  Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!!
Remy Duchateau
Milligan Interstellar Industry and Trade Co.
#5 - 2013-06-08 16:57:25 UTC
Train the hacking and archaeology skills. Both will give your virus-thingy extra "HP" and more attack power. Resulting in easier killing of viruses while staying alive longer.
Furthermore the way I like to do it is to pick up all the upgrades you come across. When blocked by a virus first go around if it isn't a restoration node or a defensive node (which you should kill ASAP). Also leave those databases 'till last since they can contain a virus or a tool and should be a last option.

Also remember that if you deal the killing blow you won't take damage!
Hope that helps a bit. I'm now starting exploration in null-sec and it's a bit tougher, but I still only use one structure due to failed hacking for every 20 successful hacks or so.
Sohl Ni-Zha
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-06-08 17:01:27 UTC
Maximus Hashur wrote:
Any tips on how to hack better? are there skills making it easier? 2 times failed and the can disappears


Rigs, new modules, Science skills, CovOp skill, ships' bonuses... Some give to your 'coherence' some to your 'strength'. That's about it.

Also, learn to listen -- a tip from recent dev-blog on new sounds.

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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#7 - 2013-06-08 17:55:50 UTC
There is a very good article on, I think, themittani.com, or something like that on the new exploration system. There is also another link on this board I think listing what the various containers can contain etc. Remember to fit a cargo scanner and scan the container at the site before you enter the mini-game to see what may be possible to acquire if you are successful. Smile

" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. " Rick. " Find out what ? " Abraham. " They're screwing with the wrong people. " Rick. Season four.   ' The Walking Dead. ' .
Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-08 21:31:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Hashur
Sohl Ni-Zha wrote:
Maximus Hashur wrote:
Any tips on how to hack better? are there skills making it easier? 2 times failed and the can disappears


Rigs, new modules, Science skills, CovOp skill, ships' bonuses... Some give to your 'coherence' some to your 'strength'. That's about it.

Also, learn to listen -- a tip from recent dev-blog on new sounds.



and that's why I made the post. This right here is something I would not have realized. I just tried it on a null sec data site and its true. There is a sound that is made when you hover your mouse over the next button in the path before you click it. its slightly different depending on whats there. clear path seems to be a sound similar to low level static/Geiger counter

Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.  Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!!
Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-06-08 21:33:35 UTC
by the way if you cloak up the site despawns

Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.  Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!!
Icecar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-06-08 22:28:52 UTC
I have a question about rigs. Which rigs affect which analyzer? They still use the old terminology I think as the Emission Scope Sharpener rig says it increases the effectiveness of a ship's analyzer mods, and the Memetic Algorithm Bank rig says it increases the effectiveness of a ship's hacking modules. Since the modules are called data analyzer and relic analyzer its a little confusing as to which rig affects which module.
Kor'el Izia
#11 - 2013-06-08 23:08:16 UTC
Remy Duchateau wrote:
Train the hacking and archaeology skills. Both will give your virus-thingy extra "HP" and more attack power. Resulting in easier killing of viruses while staying alive longer.
...


As I have come to undestand it, the extra Coherence gained by the hacking and archaeology skills and mods affects only the health and not the attack power of your virus and naturally that they don't stack.
Remy Duchateau
Milligan Interstellar Industry and Trade Co.
#12 - 2013-06-09 10:17:15 UTC
Maximus Hashur wrote:
Sohl Ni-Zha wrote:
Maximus Hashur wrote:
Any tips on how to hack better? are there skills making it easier? 2 times failed and the can disappears


Rigs, new modules, Science skills, CovOp skill, ships' bonuses... Some give to your 'coherence' some to your 'strength'. That's about it.

Also, learn to listen -- a tip from recent dev-blog on new sounds.



and that's why I made the post. This right here is something I would not have realized. I just tried it on a null sec data site and its true. There is a sound that is made when you hover your mouse over the next button in the path before you click it. its slightly different depending on whats there. clear path seems to be a sound similar to low level static/Geiger counter


Are you kidding me? I first was a bit confused about the sound part, but now I understand! I have to test this out!
Remy Duchateau
Milligan Interstellar Industry and Trade Co.
#13 - 2013-06-09 10:18:57 UTC
Kor'el Izia wrote:
Remy Duchateau wrote:
Train the hacking and archaeology skills. Both will give your virus-thingy extra "HP" and more attack power. Resulting in easier killing of viruses while staying alive longer.
...


As I have come to undestand it, the extra Coherence gained by the hacking and archaeology skills and mods affects only the health and not the attack power of your virus and naturally that they don't stack.


I could be wrong of course. I'm just doing fine with both skills at lv3. The only other stuff I use are some scanning equipment. In general I don't have real issues with hacking, except when there are loads of restoration nodes.
Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-06-09 14:48:42 UTC
Remy Duchateau wrote:
Maximus Hashur wrote:
Sohl Ni-Zha wrote:
Maximus Hashur wrote:
Any tips on how to hack better? are there skills making it easier? 2 times failed and the can disappears


Rigs, new modules, Science skills, CovOp skill, ships' bonuses... Some give to your 'coherence' some to your 'strength'. That's about it.

Also, learn to listen -- a tip from recent dev-blog on new sounds.



and that's why I made the post. This right here is something I would not have realized. I just tried it on a null sec data site and its true. There is a sound that is made when you hover your mouse over the next button in the path before you click it. its slightly different depending on whats there. clear path seems to be a sound similar to low level static/Geiger counter


Are you kidding me? I first was a bit confused about the sound part, but now I understand! I have to test this out!



The sound thing is true, but after multiple sights im not sure anymore what sound goes to what. it seems the gieger/static sound leads to either clear path or a positive tool like the wrench, not every time though. further investigation is necessary. It is harder to discern also because of the music that plays in the background when you are hacking. anyone know if this is something that can be turned off?


ALSO - Wormhole professional sights DO have sleepers. FYI in case anyone is wondering. Just found that out.

Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.  Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!!
Ander Fred
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-06-22 03:00:47 UTC
Maximus Hashur wrote:

The sound thing is true, but after multiple sights im not sure anymore what sound goes to what. it seems the gieger/static sound leads to either clear path or a positive tool like the wrench, not every time though. further investigation is necessary. It is harder to discern also because of the music that plays in the background when you are hacking. anyone know if this is something that can be turned off?


Sounds do not have any direct relation to what a node is. There appear to be chains of sound, that much is certain. Any uncovered, unconnected node has the same sound as the last one you mouse-overed. Running your mouse over multiple nodes of the same sound amplifies it, may be handy. However, I've had nodes with the same sound turn into different things so if there is something to do with sound, it's not the actual sound itself.