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Because they are noob GUI developers.

My opinion for radial menu, how can work that.
Right click should be bring to us the radial menu, left click on any icon on any radial menu button should be run that command and the last used button should be change/move to center position (selected button to main screen) > Left click on selected basic/center button should be run instantly from main screen.
This should be help for pilot what commands they want to use with one click, when he selected from radial menu to center position.
Oh and need +1 button on scanner radial menu, disable autoscan.

Thank you for the new launcher. Every time i need to login a second char now, i think twice about it and logout the first

also, hate the new jump graphics. Quit trying to fix the part of the game that doesn't need fixed.

DeWolfe failed the same hacking can in the sleeper site like.. .7 times in a row? I think someone else finally succeeded.. with lower skills and a non-optimally fit ship. This new minigame seems to marginalize the effects of skills.

I am going to give my feedback.

Compared to many and possibly most of the players who come here i am probably a noob, but i play EVE for 2 years and a half and i consider that quite some time.
My main activity is Exploration.
I have three accounts and i have invested much time ( and lets face it, money ) in this game and community because i truely enjoyed it... untill now.

What do i think of this patch? I have no words.
I am seriously considering dropping my subscriptions. Its not a rage quit, its simply not enjoying the game anymore.
And i will explain why.

There are many things that can be done in EVE, the way we are will influence the path we choose in EVE.

Only a small group chooses exploration and there is a reason for that.

This patch takes all the reasons away. The miners and ratters and mission runners will become "explorers" and the real explorers will find another way to enjoy the game... or quit.

Seriously, you should not change exploration so much without consulting explorers... but i guess you went to consult who is not an explorer...
So now you have a semi-automatic system to scan.... i hate it...
I have my own techniques... in a bit over two years i have over 400 units of overseer personal effects from 3/10 complexes and over 300 from 4/10 complexes.
I am an explorer or was untill now.

I have my own techniques, and those techniques i developed with experience and effort, those give me an advantage.
I enter a system and i dont know if there is anything good in it.
I start probing, its a hit and miss, the thrill of finding or not. the run to find it before others come in and find it as well.

Now?
Now you enter the system and see everything, you even see where the signature is located within the system before launching one probe.
awesome!!! thats how easy it gets now!
What about the probes?
Semi-automatic, press launch, they all go out and get linked! awesome!!!

so what makes the difference now? just skills, just put some days on the side to train some skills and you are good to go.

Now mission runners can do exploration afkish as they do with the missions...

It never ocurred to you that real explorers actually like to move the probes manually? that they actually enjoy the fact that its hard? and feel more rewarded from finding something that its hard to find?
Did you ask any explorer who has ran over 700 scanned complexes in two years if he wanted the probes to be released that way? and to be linked? and everythign else?

For me, the game is ruined, but i guess thats alright, i only have three accounts... those can be replaced with three new players...

For the record, i am not one of those guys who always come here complain, quite the opposite, i have never complained about any patch. If there is a bug i report and thats it.

Now?... now i hardly log into EVE... i have a few more days untill my subscriptions expire but really... i find no reasons to log.

Best wishes to everyone.

Fon

I have to agree with this sentiment.

I understand the idea behind the automatic scanner showing what's in the system, in that it is supposed to reveal what was previously unknown unless explored, and so draw people in to taking a closer look, but those who distinctly choose not to explore will only be irritated by the scan every time they enter a system, which seems like rather an inconvenience.

Then there's the people who use the system map who don't explore. I hope they like red blobs everywhere, or remember to change to a filter they have to make specially to hide everything.

And I don't think the fundamental nature of exploring that is life in w-space has been taken in to account. Returning to a system and immediately knowing a new signature, probably a wormhole, all without dropping a probe has spawned takes all the mystery out of w-space. Maybe pilots dropping a single DSP to take a look, but that still took time and effort, and made them visible on d-scan. Now they get an immediate advantage.

The changes to the scanning skills are positive, and consistent with the new policy to make skills effective. Launching all probes at once and formations are okay, once user-defined formations can be saved.

The auto-scan is a step too far, giving too much information for no effort. Linking all probes together makes scanning too simple to be interesting. I hope that these changes can be reversed.

I find it interesting how hacking is generally considered better now for being more involving, yet scanning is considered better now for being less involving.

These changes were "asked" and "supported" by people who dont take a chance and dont like complicated things.
Miners, mission runners, that kind of players.
Players who complained they never "get lucky" with exploration... because they launch probes in one system take half an hour to scan it and then didnt find anything... and then give up.

I link a vigilant BPC that i got and they ask me where i got it, they want me to tell them go to this spot, press a button and it will appear in your cargo.
They love this new patch.

These folks are not explorers...

What if it would be the other way around?
What if there were no agents giving missions saying in advance what is the reward?
What if there were no asteroid belts except the ones that would need to be found and scanned down... with very weak sig strength?
What if all the PVE in the game would be for the ones who have an explorer profile? Who make an effort, who dont give up when its not easy? Would that be ok?

Why turn this game in 100% directed to mission runners kind fo players? or afk miners? Does it seem ok and fair?

What are the CSMs doing? Are they defending the players interests? or their own?

Who was the CSM or the CSMs that asked and supported the changes to make exploration easy as hell for the lazy ones in which they are included?

Lets make an EVE for babies? you press one button and get the goods?

What about the ones who are not?

Who brought EVE to be what it is now? what kind of player platform supported EVE untill now?

Experience has taught me that the more we invest in something, the more we value it.

All these players that enjoy easy things at EVE dont really value EVE, they can easely replace it for some other "easy fix" kind of game.
And they do, they dont get good missions, they log and go play WOT or something else, minecraft, whatever.
I see it all the time.

I am not a gamer, i only played EVE.

Is it possible to scan manually or do I have to force a session change to rescan a system?

If the former, how?

If the latter, WTF!?!

Hoping that it just an accidental button breakage and not an adolescent attempt at being 'smart' .. scan effect is nifty, if a bit pervasive/obtrusive, but surely you can't mean to automate it entirely.

I suspect Odyssey changes have made them unsub, they have left or will stop playing soon. I may do so as well. Reducing my ability to mine securely in Nul is a game-breaking change.

whoa, just whoa.

you, good sir, expressed exactly HOW i feel about the "exploration" part of this expansion, i wouldn't have found better way to express it.

so far, in my corp, already lost 2 ppl who were explorer only, and i will not do those anymore.

this has been said during SISI feedback, for the last upgrades, you are killing your player base piece by piece...but maybe this is what you want....