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Dear CCP please explain SP Reimbursement.

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Namasta
Doomheim
#121 - 2013-06-08 15:24:31 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Namasta wrote:
can you too answer simple question where in this dev blogs words about you have frig you have sp , dont have take a ****!?
The answer to this question will not change just because you keep asking it:
Quote:
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.

What Battlecruisers could you fly before Odyssey?

What Battlecruisers can you fly now?

Why is it such a hard question to answer?

can you too answer simple question where in this dev blogs words about you have frig you have sp , dont have take a ****!?
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#122 - 2013-06-08 15:25:42 UTC
Namasta wrote:
can you too answer simple question where in this dev blogs words about you have frig you have sp , dont have take a ****!?


It would go a long way towards explaining the situation.

The ONLY way you would have gotten SP reimbursed is if a skill is COMPLETELY removed. That would ONLY happen if you had trained Battlecruisers but you could fly NONE. As soon as you could have flown just ONE Battlecruiser that deal no longer applies.

So I'll ask again. Could you fly ANY battlecruisers before odyssey?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#123 - 2013-06-08 15:25:52 UTC
Namasta wrote:
can you too answer simple question where in this dev blogs words about you have frig you have sp , dont have take a ****!?
The answer to this question will not change just because you keep asking it:
Quote:
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.

What Battlecruisers could you fly before Odyssey?

What Battlecruisers can you fly now?

Why is it such a hard question to answer?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#124 - 2013-06-08 15:27:30 UTC
Namasta, here is the CSM's position on this:

You misread the devblog, you're not getting any free SP, no one else in your position got free SP, get over it.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#125 - 2013-06-08 15:28:16 UTC
Namasta wrote:
if anyone intrested in theres characters i give you it for free just pay transfer buy giving me plex.
all will be through official eve trade forum as private trade. they a miners. write ti this character via eve mail.


Evemail me their eveboard stats, I could be interested.
Namasta
Doomheim
#126 - 2013-06-08 15:33:28 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Namasta, here is the CSM's position on this:

You misread the devblog, you're not getting any free SP, no one else in your position got free SP, get over it.

you have lack of support done whis it.
Namasta
Doomheim
#127 - 2013-06-08 15:39:29 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Namasta wrote:
if anyone intrested in theres characters i give you it for free just pay transfer buy giving me plex.
all will be through official eve trade forum as private trade. they a miners. write ti this character via eve mail.


Evemail me their eveboard stats, I could be interested.


http://eveboard.com/pilot/Mining_Unit_001 pass 12345 i have 10 toons like this http://i.imgur.com/PkJo8Ck.jpg
Mental Peasant
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#128 - 2013-06-08 15:40:20 UTC
Tippia wrote:
No they shouldn't, since that would defeat the purpose of tiercide and all the improvements that come with it. BCs and dessies are T1 hull skills. They are now treated as T1 hull skills rather than T2 skills. This makes the ship progression logical and consistent along the entire line of T1 ship classes.

There is absolutely no reason to keep the old system.


I do see the benefits from the change and as you said it does make things more consistent.

What does bother me a bit is what in the past took you 14+ hours to achieve. Now takes 19+ days
Namasta
Doomheim
#129 - 2013-06-08 15:42:20 UTC
Mental Peasant wrote:
Tippia wrote:
No they shouldn't, since that would defeat the purpose of tiercide and all the improvements that come with it. BCs and dessies are T1 hull skills. They are now treated as T1 hull skills rather than T2 skills. This makes the ship progression logical and consistent along the entire line of T1 ship classes.

There is absolutely no reason to keep the old system.


I do see the benefits from the change and as you said it does make things more consistent.

What does bother me a bit is what in the past took you 14+ hours to achieve. Now takes 19+ days


yes 3 more plex or 45$ to make the character the same as before patch.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#130 - 2013-06-08 15:45:05 UTC
Namasta wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Namasta wrote:
if anyone intrested in theres characters i give you it for free just pay transfer buy giving me plex.
all will be through official eve trade forum as private trade. they a miners. write ti this character via eve mail.


Evemail me their eveboard stats, I could be interested.


http://eveboard.com/pilot/Mining_Unit_001 pass 12345 i have 10 toons like this http://i.imgur.com/PkJo8Ck.jpg


yea nvm. 1mil SP toons aren't worth the transfer fee.

Were these the toons you had trained the battlecruisers skill on?
Namasta
Doomheim
#131 - 2013-06-08 15:45:58 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Namasta wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Namasta wrote:
if anyone intrested in theres characters i give you it for free just pay transfer buy giving me plex.
all will be through official eve trade forum as private trade. they a miners. write ti this character via eve mail.


Evemail me their eveboard stats, I could be interested.


http://eveboard.com/pilot/Mining_Unit_001 pass 12345 i have 10 toons like this http://i.imgur.com/PkJo8Ck.jpg


yea nvm. 1mil SP toons aren't worth the transfer fee.

Were these the toons you had trained the battlecruisers skill on?

yes
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2013-06-08 15:54:24 UTC
Namasta wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Namasta wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Namasta wrote:
if anyone intrested in theres characters i give you it for free just pay transfer buy giving me plex.
all will be through official eve trade forum as private trade. they a miners. write ti this character via eve mail.


Evemail me their eveboard stats, I could be interested.


http://eveboard.com/pilot/Mining_Unit_001 pass 12345 i have 10 toons like this http://i.imgur.com/PkJo8Ck.jpg


yea nvm. 1mil SP toons aren't worth the transfer fee.

Were these the toons you had trained the battlecruisers skill on?

yes


And so they could not fly any Battlecruisers? And it looks like you got ~ 1mil SP back as unassigned SP?
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#133 - 2013-06-08 16:15:10 UTC
1m SP is like, just under 20d?

Fluffy Bunny Pic!

Namasta
Doomheim
#134 - 2013-06-08 16:15:46 UTC
Quote:

And so they could not fly any Battlecruisers? And it looks like you got ~ 1mil SP back as unassigned SP?

yes as partialy trained lvl 5 BC and lvl 2 frig, but by rules you all talking about i must have nothing and bc skill removed.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#135 - 2013-06-08 16:20:05 UTC
Namasta wrote:
Quote:

And so they could not fly any Battlecruisers? And it looks like you got ~ 1mil SP back as unassigned SP?

yes as partialy trained lvl 5 BC and lvl 2 frig, but by rules you all talking about i must have nothing and bc skill removed.

If you had no cruiser skill (which you apparently didn't), then the rule was that you get any SP in the now-useless Battlecruisers skill back. Everything is as it should be.

It is, however, the complete opposite of what you said in the OP: “now i have 1 racial BC lvl 5. No SP Reimbursement” — you do not have a racial BC V; you [ı]do[/i] have reimbursed SP.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#136 - 2013-06-08 16:22:22 UTC
Namasta wrote:
Quote:

And so they could not fly any Battlecruisers? And it looks like you got ~ 1mil SP back as unassigned SP?

yes as partialy trained lvl 5 BC and lvl 2 frig, but by rules you all talking about i must have nothing and bc skill removed.



You got the exact amount of SP you had invested in BCs/Destroyers reimbursed because you couldn't fly any battlecruisers/destroyers.

So, what's the problem?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Namasta
Doomheim
#137 - 2013-06-08 16:26:00 UTC
Tippia wrote:

If you had no cruiser skill (which you apparently didn't), then the rule was that you get any SP in the now-useless Battlecruisers skill back. Everything is as it should be.
.

i dont have cruiser of other races too, why i dont recive reimbursmet for them ?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#138 - 2013-06-08 16:28:30 UTC
Namasta wrote:
Tippia wrote:

If you had no cruiser skill (which you apparently didn't), then the rule was that you get any SP in the now-useless Battlecruisers skill back. Everything is as it should be.

i dont have cruiser of other races too, why i dont recive reimbursmet for them ?

Because you don't get reimbursed for things you don't have.

You had a battlecruiser skill. Your character build made it useless. Therefore you got the SP in that one useless skill back.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#139 - 2013-06-08 16:29:17 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Namasta wrote:
Tippia wrote:

If you had no cruiser skill (which you apparently didn't), then the rule was that you get any SP in the now-useless Battlecruisers skill back. Everything is as it should be.
.

i dont have cruiser of other races too, why i dont recive reimbursmet for them ?


As I thought, you expected to be able to game the system and get 4 times the SP you invested into battlecruisers.

Because you had no racial cruisers trained, you got the exact amount of SP you had invested into Battlecruisers returned to you. Just like it says in the Dev Blog.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Dave Stark
#140 - 2013-06-08 16:29:32 UTC
Namasta wrote:
Tippia wrote:

If you had no cruiser skill (which you apparently didn't), then the rule was that you get any SP in the now-useless Battlecruisers skill back. Everything is as it should be.
.

i dont have cruiser of other races too, why i dont recive reimbursmet for them ?


because you can't get a refund for something you never had.