EVE General Discussion

True, but at the same time continuing to pour resources into a lost cause can have a greater long term negative effect. Sometimes you just need to cut your losses before they spiral out of control.

Is this true for Dust? Maybe, maybe not.

In Eve it's smaller? Try saying that again when you've played any other game. Eve is the most free-thinking playerbase out there. That's the only reason I've stayed with this game for so long. The game changes because players push the boundaries, not (just) because of CCP's creativity. Yes, they have the potential to royally screw this up, but that's the same with any risk. No one can predict the outcome. Lots of failures are successes in disguise.

Also, how does one determine whether someone can think for himself? That statistic sounds too prone to opinion to be worth quoting.



How long have you played? I've played since the beginning and seen how Eve has developed. If anything, DUST has a head start. I remember when battleships were as rare as titans. How do you think the market looked? Nowhere near as robust as it is now. DUST faces a similar problem as EVE did, but DUST has the EVE market to (help) sustain it (in a limited, roundabout way) until it can sustain itself, whereas EVE never had any access to outside help at all.



I've been living under a wormhole POS for the past 2 years. Who the **** are those guys?

And I want to kick you in the teeth.

But we can't all have what we want, can we?

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It's obvious to anyone with an objective mind that DUST is silly, this goes back to before it even launched, and now proof..... If you think 4000 players online on the PSN in CCP numbers is good then every game is a success really.

Eve wasn't doing well 10 years ago, compared to how well it's doing now. I'm not one of those bitter vets who can't see the positive differences between then and now. That was my point. :facepalm:

This does have bearing on DUST because the ingame markets are similar and tied together. They are also based on a similar, if accelerated, growth model.

The faces in CCP have changed. That's normal for any company, or any kind of gathering really. Some like the new faces, some don't, some like the changes, some don't. A company isn't doomed to failure because it's core people have changed or when the focus changes; it's doomed when core ideals become unrecognizable. As long as the glimmer of the idea that spawned Eve in 2003 is there, the game, and the company, will continue. Continuation=success.

Of course it's being created with Eve dollars. My money for Starcraft 2 goes to Diablo 3 which I won't touch with a ten-foot pole. It is also going toward WoW, and WoW money is going toward Starcraft 2 production. What's your point? CCP isn't a government collecting tax money. It's their choice where to spend it, and it's our choice to continue paying for it or not.

As for Eve Offline. When Eve was a month old, it barely had 3,000 players online. Few would call that a successful launch. Again, what's your point? May I see your crystal ball?

I think you are confusing fact with deductive reasoning/educated guesses/forecasting Should Dust be an area of business concern? Absolutely, as a concerned player any new venture or risk a company makes, whom you enjoy their services is worrisome. However, we do not OWN the company.

We are not INVESTING in the company with our monthly subscriptions. It may seem to many that with simply playing the game we are investing our time and money, however there is no "cash out" option. Services and obligations are forthright dispensed.

As for the direction of the game? Eve is great and I like the direction it is going. If at anytime I feel they are not delivering what I consider enjoyable content, I'll leave. Just because for years I have made monthly contributions, does not mean that EVE is obligated to deliver the same service year after year.

I can understand the passion and drive some fanatical gamers have toward anygame, however I fail to understand that simply because you are a customer you feel entitled and know what's best for the company.

Oh look, it's a 'Dust is dying' thread.
I'm sure we have quite a few of these for both games.

I can't respond to meaningless reddit **** like this all day.

But, maybe someone will appreciate if i tried.

Most of the people in this thread I think are used to a reddit/instagrm/twitter/tumbr internet to many people this is what the internet is. But I want to tell you, you don't need to castrate yourself here, you don't need to become a slave to hipsterism or a 'bugchaser' (liberals ect) you don't need to suckle at the teet of authority.

You're allowed to question them. For god sake just as a hobby question something in your black nail polish soaked lives.

Dust is a console game, there isn't much crossover in demand, and actually the DUST culture is having a hard time dealing with veteran eve players who play the game. If you have the time and desire to hop on dust and get to a good point, i can only imagine awoxing is much more sweet when you do it to people who don't consider it a part of the game.

Its impact on eve is also minimal, and if they ever merge the economies, I can't see any situation where eve players don't profit unless CCP pulls some bullshit magic to convert eve dollars to dust dollars.