EVE General Discussion

Minigames should be exterminated in any game with RPG in his name.
My character has skills, use them. I hate minigames. They're always bad, repetitives and awfully boring. In fact, i don't do exploration anymore, and will stop to mine too if it's a minigame.
They're really the plague of today games. I want the possibility to skip them with an overskilled character, even if the training takes twice the time.

And if that happens it's bad design.

EQII the tradeskill mini-game is easy enough to not interfere with both socializing and even doing rush orders. Players will be in their guild halls, in VOIP and doing just fine.

Problem with the mini-game so far released is: EvE is a PvP game and it can happen anywhere. Such a mini-game will have to be small, and where a player can watch over his shoulder. Something like keypads. Spend too long at it, it turns it into a cannon fodder activity, and that's a waste of time and money.

In PvP, KISS principle applies. When players don't loot drops in fear of not seeing the enemy (Black Legion loot policy for example -- 2bil worth of goods can goto waste, but they're not stopping to loot it, they'll destroy it instead)...yeah...keep it simple.

The discussion of the mini game and optimal strategy has promoted social interaction. I've crossed paths and made contacts with people precisely because I understood the mechanics better, and the exchange of information created a common ground for us in hostile space. Say what you will, but the inclusion of player skill and the fact that it distracts from dscan is forcing player interaction at gunpoint all over new eden right now

How the hell is watching a module cycle worse that clicking through a short game? You think things should be pure RPG, with everything depending on your skills?

Hell, let's remove ship combat then! It's basically a minigame, and besides, eve shouldn't be about player skill but character skill! The ships should approach each other and then the player with lower skills should explode. None of that dirty casual **** for my Eve!

Fking this.

Because at the end of the old module cycle you got a loot container, now the loot spews out and disintegrates...

It is dumb.

Whack-a-mole would be a more apt comparison.

More chance of combat. More chance for socializing. The distraction and time investment ups the risk of a human encounter, whether at gunpoint or not.

Actually it is Jenga followed by Whack-a-mole.

CCP has skipped the amusement park and went straight for Chuck E Cheese instead.

Let me put it this way: In 3 years of exploration, I've never gotten attacked in an exploration site before. Last time I died was way back when I was a noob. People TRIED to gank me, but I was d-scanning every 3 seconds while I watched netflix on my second screen. This was stupid, and I readily admit it. But that was what exploration was. The risks were negligible. In many ways they're still low, but for the first time in years, I got attacked in a site just 2 hours ago. I was shitting bricks, as I had about 800 mil in cargo, and that was WITHOUT me watching netflix. My eyes were on the screen. I was dscanning, but the distraction meant I lowered my guard for just a second. Next thing I knew, I had a helios and a hound warp disrupting me.

And that's my point. Odyssey opened new doors to would-be explorers, and gives the hunters and gankers more targets. Although in this case I'm pretty sure my gankers were pissed, cause they didn't have a scram, and I did. Scrammed the helios and MWD'd out at full burn. Anyways, that simply wouldn't happen prior to Odyssey. We'd all be perfectly d-scanning every 3 seconds for the duration of our run, and effectively taking no risks. This is an improvement over the previous system in every way.

And one more thing: Risk is part of the fun. Exploration was fun before, but it lost all sense of risk very early on. I only did it because I enjoyed the wandering nature of it. Now that I'm actively at risk and getting shot at, I'm having WAY more fun than before. Forget isk income(even if it's better than before), and focus on simple gameplay. I actually feel moderately challenged again, as I have to go into null now. Low has lost some of it's value, but null is now accessible, which balances it out. Simply having isk rain from the skies isn't fun. I want to work for it. I want to get shot at. I want to be hunted. If I'm not at risk, then PvE simply isn't enjoyable to me.