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Issue with Covert Ops and tech 3 bonuses to Relic/Data Analyzers
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TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2013-06-07 07:30:03 UTC
This problem existed on Singularity, but I didn't really notice it until last night.

The Emergent Locus Analyzer bonuses read as:

Subsystem Skill Bonus:
10% increase to scan strength of probes per level.
20% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams per level.
+10 Virus Strength to Relic and Data Analyzers

Role Bonus:
-99% reduced CPU need for Scan Probe Launchers.

and the Covert Ops bonus reads as:

Amarr Frigate Skill Bonus: (Anathema)
5% bonus to rocket damage per level
5% reduction of capacitor recharge time per level

Covert Ops Skill Bonus:
20% reduced CPU need for Cloaking Devices per level
10% increase to scan strength of probes per level
10% reduction to survey probe flight time per level
+10 Virus Strength to Relic and Data Analyzers


The new bonuses are awkwardly worded, as they do not include "per level" at the end, and the bonus is only being applied once despite the user having the associated skill to 5.

Is this bonus a Role Bonus to where it is only counted once, or is this bugged? If this is a Role Bonus, please move it to the appropriate section to avoid confusion.



(If it is a Role Bonus, could you change it to +5 str and then make it a skill-based bonus? some of these minigames are just unfair with the Supressors)

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Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#2 - 2013-06-07 07:31:07 UTC
bugs.eveonline.com
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-06-07 08:22:34 UTC
It doesn't say per level because it isn't per level.

(And the +25 bonus at level 5 you suggested would be silly and eliminate any and all risk from the hacking minigame)

35 Virus strength is pretty readily obtainable, and this is more than enough to wreck anything once you take hacking/archaeology up and throw on a couple of rigs.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2013-06-07 08:45:28 UTC
Messoroz wrote:
bugs.eveonline.com


https://bugs.eveonline.com/newbugreport.asp

Better :D

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TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-06-07 19:05:36 UTC  |  Edited by: TheButcherPete
Can we get a word from a dev on this? ♥

GallowsCalibrator wrote:
It doesn't say per level because it isn't per level.

(And the +25 bonus at level 5 you suggested would be silly and eliminate any and all risk from the hacking minigame)

35 Virus strength is pretty readily obtainable, and this is more than enough to wreck anything once you take hacking/archaeology up and throw on a couple of rigs.



I would just like some clarification, even if this isn't a bug. I'm not the only person who is confused and/or irritated at the would-be issue with the wording

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2013-06-07 19:07:28 UTC
Maybe its just a fixed bonus.

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Haulie Berry
#7 - 2013-06-07 19:09:13 UTC
TheButcherPete wrote:
This problem existed on Singularity, but I didn't really notice it until last night.

The Emergent Locus Analyzer bonuses read as:

Subsystem Skill Bonus:
10% increase to scan strength of probes per level.
20% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams per level.
+10 Virus Strength to Relic and Data Analyzers

Role Bonus:
-99% reduced CPU need for Scan Probe Launchers.

and the Covert Ops bonus reads as:

Amarr Frigate Skill Bonus: (Anathema)
5% bonus to rocket damage per level
5% reduction of capacitor recharge time per level

Covert Ops Skill Bonus:
20% reduced CPU need for Cloaking Devices per level
10% increase to scan strength of probes per level
10% reduction to survey probe flight time per level
+10 Virus Strength to Relic and Data Analyzers


The new bonuses are awkwardly worded, as they do not include "per level" at the end, and the bonus is only being applied once despite the user having the associated skill to 5.

Is this bonus a Role Bonus to where it is only counted once, or is this bugged? If this is a Role Bonus, please move it to the appropriate section to avoid confusion.



(If it is a Role Bonus, could you change it to +5 str and then make it a skill-based bonus? some of these minigames are just unfair with the Supressors)


It's obviously intended to be a role bonus, and no, changing it to +5 per level would be absurd.

That would completely trivialize the game.

So far I have only blown up two cans, and in both cases, I clumsily wasted my first attempt (in one case, I had MWD'd into the can and bounced out of range after activating my hacker. In the other, I fat finger clicked the close-window X). I'm not even rigging for it.
Freighdee Katt
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-07 19:22:57 UTC
If it is "meant to be a role bonus" then it should be listed as a role bonus, rather than as a "skill bonus." In every other instance in the game, if something is listed as a "skill bonus" then it is a per-level bonus, not a "role bonus" for "having that skill." If it's listed as a skill bonus and doesn't give a per level bonus, then either the description is bugged or the bonus is bugged. Unless they clear it up, there is no way to tell which.

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-06-07 19:24:10 UTC
Who let you in this forum..?

Dodixie > Hek
Haulie Berry
#10 - 2013-06-07 19:25:21 UTC
Freighdee Katt wrote:
If it is "meant to be a role bonus" then it should be listed as a role bonus, rather than as a "skill bonus." In every other instance in the game, if something is listed as a "skill bonus" then it is a per-level bonus, not a "role bonus" for "having that skill." If it's listed as a skill bonus and doesn't give a per level bonus, then either the description is bugged or the bonus is bugged. Unless they clear it up, there is no way to tell which.



This typo is clearly a top priority and they should fix it at once so you can cry about something else.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#11 - 2013-06-07 19:30:39 UTC

It doesn't say "Per level".

It isn't calculated "Per level".

You want it to be "Per level".

Clearly this is a bug.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-07 19:37:35 UTC
one hundred thousand million things one can complain about and you had to complain about semantics, which is not one of the one hundred thousand million things.

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TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2013-06-08 15:43:42 UTC
Bump - maybe CCP will see this on a saturday <3

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