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EFT v2.35 - Citadel
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Petra Hakaari
Stalking Wolfpack
#1341 - 2013-06-06 22:30:37 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:

oh no, it wasn't ready 1 second after server came online, whatever shall we do ... the instant gratification kiddies these days Roll



Oh yeah, how mean of me, what was i thinking? its not that evemon and pyfa have already been updated....

Because tities .
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1342 - 2013-06-06 22:32:40 UTC
To be fair EveMon still has a few bugs regarding the new prerequisites for things like Command Ships and Interdictors if you had the skill injected before the patch but don't meet the new prerequisites to inject the skill now.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#1343 - 2013-06-06 22:45:22 UTC
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
To be fair EveMon still has a few bugs regarding the new prerequisites for things like Command Ships and Interdictors if you had the skill injected before the patch but don't meet the new prerequisites to inject the skill now.



This basically. First to publish, then first to get slammed with tons of bug reports. EFT devs/testers are probably avoiding this as much as possible. Or they jsut have a busy rl. Lets not **** off the people who make this sutff, its out when its out.


Need the eft fix that bad go to FHC, pull the test data files someone else did and enjoy. I have not nitpicked them to death but they seem to be accurate enough (and if that FHC poster is here, thanks for your efforts for the test files).
Jokus Balim
Miner At Heart
#1344 - 2013-06-07 11:21:33 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
Oh yeah, how mean of me, what was i thinking? its not that evemon and pyfa have already been updated....


Well, you can still switch to Pyfa and never look back. It won't be the worst thing for Gripen. It's not like he is losing a paying customer. This wrong sense of entitlement is just rude...
m3talc0re X
The Motley Crew of Disorder
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#1345 - 2013-06-07 16:27:02 UTC  |  Edited by: m3talc0re X
Yeah, but Pyfa kinda sucks...

Looking at those updates on failheap, am I supposed to use "Replace" or "Append"? 0_o
Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#1346 - 2013-06-07 17:14:25 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
J3ssica Alba wrote:

oh no, it wasn't ready 1 second after server came online, whatever shall we do ... the instant gratification kiddies these days Roll



Oh yeah, how mean of me, what was i thinking? its not that evemon and pyfa have already been updated....


but, see, who gives a **** about pyfa? probably not too many people in this thread.

thanks for your comment, though, it really added to the discussion.

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
Elaina Sulan
Dead Star Syndicate
#1347 - 2013-06-07 18:13:10 UTC
Wingmate wrote:
Petra Hakaari wrote:
J3ssica Alba wrote:

oh no, it wasn't ready 1 second after server came online, whatever shall we do ... the instant gratification kiddies these days Roll



Oh yeah, how mean of me, what was i thinking? its not that evemon and pyfa have already been updated....


but, see, who gives a **** about pyfa? probably not too many people in this thread.

thanks for your comment, though, it really added to the discussion.

Pyfa is alright....when there isn't anything better.
Rhianna Ghost
Ghost Industries Inc.
#1348 - 2013-06-07 19:24:14 UTC
m3talc0re X wrote:
Yeah, but Pyfa kinda sucks...

Looking at those updates on failheap, am I supposed to use "Replace" or "Append"? 0_o


Now, after the patch you will want "Replace", as it replaces the old ships with the new ones.

Take care, because the skill changes are not in the files, so you have to add Battlecruiser or Destroyer manually, if needed...
m3talc0re X
The Motley Crew of Disorder
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#1349 - 2013-06-07 20:16:07 UTC
The files aren't right. The dps for the CNR wasn't correct.
m3talc0re X
The Motley Crew of Disorder
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#1350 - 2013-06-07 23:46:36 UTC
I think he makes us wait like this just to make our addictions burn and make sure we appreciate his efforts... This is my theory -_-
Med Cectpa
Russian Thunder Squad
Against ALL Authorities
#1351 - 2013-06-08 05:24:18 UTC
m3talc0re X wrote:
I think he makes us wait like this just to make our addictions burn and make sure we appreciate his efforts... This is my theory -_-


You think that he is attention wh**e? I don't think so Lol
bongpacks
Rules of Acquisition
#1352 - 2013-06-08 05:56:53 UTC
Seeing some inconsistency with EHP numbers. The way I was told it eve goes with the worst case scenario when calculating EHP and calculates for the lowest resist you have. Is this right? If it is then there's a good little bit of difference on my proteus fit. In game I'm showing 113,775 EHP with EM being my lowest resist. In EFT with my skills imported and even with "All lvl 5" using a 100% EM damage profile I only see 107,467 EHP.

Resists in game show 73 , 82 , 91 ,74 while in EFT they read as 72.8 , 81.8 , 90.9 , 73.8

Here's the fit:

[Proteus, Covert]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II

True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
10MN Microwarpdrive II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors



Not sure what the problem is but there is one and it may just be me not understanding how these things are calculated.
Josilin du Guesclin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1353 - 2013-06-08 06:40:35 UTC
EVE calculates your shield's EHP based on 100% damage to its lowest resist. Then it does the same for armour vs the armour's lowest resist, even when that's different from the shield's. Then it works out the hull's. Finally it adds all these together. Thus it gives the worst case, where someone blows through your shield with one kind of damage, then swaps and eats away your armour with a second type, both being the perfect choice.
bongpacks
Rules of Acquisition
#1354 - 2013-06-08 07:11:06 UTC  |  Edited by: bongpacks
Even so my lowest resist on both shield and armor in this proteus is EM. So I figured a 100% EM damage profile should do the job in making EFT calculate like eve does. Maybe gripen should add an option to calculate EHP the same way as EVE? Why it wasn't done that way in the first place is a mystery to me as well.
Shade Millith
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#1355 - 2013-06-08 10:13:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Shade Millith
bongpacks wrote:
Even so my lowest resist on both shield and armor in this proteus is EM. So I figured a 100% EM damage profile should do the job in making EFT calculate like eve does. Maybe gripen should add an option to calculate EHP the same way as EVE? Why it wasn't done that way in the first place is a mystery to me as well.


There already is a way. You can manually create damage profiles.

Right click on the Defence area of the stats, and select Edit Custom Profiles.
In terms of EM, you'd make a new profile called 'EM', and just put the number 1 for EM, and leave the others at zero, giving it a 100% EM damage profile.


As another hint, you can right click on the ships Scan Resolution, and find the time it takes the ship to lock various things.



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Why it wasn't done that way in the first place is a mystery to me as well.


Because EFT came first? EFT is years older than the ingame one.
bongpacks
Rules of Acquisition
#1356 - 2013-06-08 10:56:18 UTC
lol I already said I was using a 100% EM damage profile
Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1357 - 2013-06-08 11:09:13 UTC
Give it some time. The people who develop utilities like this give freely of their time and effort to help other players and others want to complain that they're not doing it fast enough? Really? Give the guy a break ffs, if he never updates it he's already done far more for Eve players than 99% of the rest of us will ever do (myself included).
michael chasseur
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1358 - 2013-06-08 16:16:51 UTC
people who complain about waiting for something free are the scum of the earth
Gripen
#1359 - 2013-06-08 18:00:02 UTC
Odyssey version available.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1360 - 2013-06-08 18:03:30 UTC
Gripen wrote:
Odyssey version available.

Yay! Trying it out now!
Thank you! :)

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become