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CCP please keep the jump animation!
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Maybelater Headache
Doomheim
#81 - 2013-06-07 10:44:45 UTC
motion sickness blabla motion sickness blabla

the effect is annoying to most of the people doing more jumps than just the few between Jita and (insert your fav mission hub here).

Ok, a bunch of fat drunken neckbeards cheered at the presentation on fan fest, so what? The new "expansion" has been deployed and some people are vocal about what they don´t like. Seems legit to me.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2013-06-07 11:31:39 UTC
blood spine wrote:
The jump animation is actually quite excellent keep the flow of the game as you jump. I will admit that it was quite annoying at first but after the "OMG CHANG DONT LIKE CHANGE" wore off I noticed how it kept the game going instead of the horrible immersion breaker of a black screen and loading bar. Its the same with the Wormhole transition

Again, some of us are here to ruin other people's day in Eve, and could give a rat's ass about immersion. You want immersion? Fine. Play close enough to your monitor that you can't see anything else, and make sure you get a VR beer hat when EVR goes live. For those of us not on that boat, the off button would be a nice gesture.
blood spine
Infinity Engine
#83 - 2013-06-07 11:35:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Blood Spine
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
blood spine wrote:
The jump animation is actually quite excellent keep the flow of the game as you jump. I will admit that it was quite annoying at first but after the "OMG CHANG DONT LIKE CHANGE" wore off I noticed how it kept the game going instead of the horrible immersion breaker of a black screen and loading bar. Its the same with the Wormhole transition

Again, some of us are here to ruin other people's day in Eve, and could give a rat's ass about immersion. You want immersion? Fine. Play close enough to your monitor that you can't see anything else, and make sure you get a VR beer hat when EVR goes live. For those of us not on that boat, the off button would be a nice gesture.


Could you read the post by me after the one you quoted as you can see that that is out of context though it is probably my fault as i was not clear enough that in that post I was just simply agreeing with the OP in the fact that the jump animation should be kept in the game Lol Im not saying that there should not be an OPTIONAL off button as that would be quite hypercritical of me as I want an optional scan button instead of relying on the automatic system scan
Shade Millith
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#84 - 2013-06-07 12:22:16 UTC
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:
Please CCP, please keep the jump animation. Many of us like it instead of the loading bar. This also helps with the immersion factor. Plus you took time and resources to place it into the game. So please, please do not take it out. Big smile


Noone's said anything about removing it! We just want an option to turn it off.
Sylvia Enderas
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#85 - 2013-06-07 12:51:23 UTC
+1 an option to turn it off
Sister Sophia
Doomheim
#86 - 2013-06-07 13:30:36 UTC
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
does nobody find it strange that not once, in any video posted on youtube of the effect before release, not one comment of, i feel motion sickness, nope, all i read was praise?


Huang Mo wrote:
Vera Denjuros wrote:
Thats why it was tested on SiSi before implementation, almost everything gets tested, so it beats me why there is all this whining now, perhaps if more people would help CCP test stuff on SiSi instead of crying wolf AFTER implementation....


People DID point out the problems:

Can we turn this off?

"post-jump rotation "around ship" will lead to motion sickness"

camera spinning with each jump gets a bit nauseating after a few jumps

I can see this getting VERY old very fast

please add an option to disable it for people with motion sickness

Nice effect - the first 10 jumps. Then, it just gets boring and the camera movement after you jumped really gets annoying

it causes motion sickness

it feels like getting sick if you have to do more than 2 jumps

I have to go along with the "this causes headaches" group

This will obviously cause trouble to people who suffer from motion sickness

after 10 jumps I felt dizzy and after 17 jumps I got sick

This one nails it: please, before rolling this on Tranquility, make team-wide playtest with 30+ systems manual jump route. If anyone will get motion sickness in the middle of the route, then animation clearly not done yet


Basically every complaint post-patch was raised pre-patch !


A huge THANK YOU to Huang Mo for digging all of this up (yet again).
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2013-06-07 13:51:08 UTC
press F10 and play that way

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Maybelater Headache
Doomheim
#88 - 2013-06-07 14:11:28 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
press F10 and play that way


Want a cookie?
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#89 - 2013-06-07 15:01:25 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
ACE McFACE wrote:
Why would they get rid of it? Because a few people got motion sickness? If you really get motion sickness from a little bit of movement you might want to have it checked.



Try not to show your ignorance, 20% of the population gets motion sickness off just this kind of issue.

Sniff...

Tough...

I don't care....

Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo...
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2013-06-07 15:07:47 UTC
The temporary "off" for this feature is to switch to the map view.

Don't ban me, bro!
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#91 - 2013-06-07 15:21:55 UTC
blood spine wrote:
The jump animation is actually quite excellent keep the flow of the game as you jump. I will admit that it was quite annoying at first but after the "OMG CHANG DONT LIKE CHANGE" wore off I noticed how it kept the game going instead of the horrible immersion breaker of a black screen and loading bar. Its the same with the Wormhole transition


Thing is those of us with good computers didn't even see a load bar. Just that black blip changing to a new zone....one black blip, like a flicker.

It now is at least 3 black blips (where the animations begin) and takes even longer to get through a gate...all for eye candy, not function.

Function before form is a basic build consideration. If the animation had a purpose, fine. This doesn't even qualify for that as it doesn't even flow with it's purpose. If you are at the rear of the gate by 10 clicks, it's perfect. Warp to 0, the animation shoots you to the rear of the gate (leap frog effect) and that's not kewl. It's disjointed and off.

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Ahvram
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#92 - 2013-06-07 16:15:16 UTC
Its not about removing it. Its about giving us the option to turn it off. I have a feeling that most people that "love" the new gate effect only make a handful of jumps a day. When you are making 50+ jumps a day on multiple accounts you come to hate it very quickly.

There are so many things in the game that need tuning and rebalancing it seems that this was just resources wasted for a useless effect.
Khira Kitamatsu
#93 - 2013-06-07 16:19:35 UTC
Ahvram wrote:
Its not about removing it. Its about giving us the option to turn it off. I have a feeling that most people that "love" the new gate effect only make a handful of jumps a day. When you are making 50+ jumps a day on multiple accounts you come to hate it very quickly.

There are so many things in the game that need tuning and rebalancing it seems that this was just resources wasted for a useless effect.


Ummm...lets see, I made multiple trips between Lonetrek and Kor-Azor space - that is about 16 jumps one way, over the last few days. So we're talking hundreds of jumps since Odyssey. I had no issue with the new jump animation.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#94 - 2013-06-07 16:20:44 UTC
wrote:
Its not about removing it. Its about giving us the option to turn it off.



If I hear this one more fing time.........



CLOSE THIS THREAD CCP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

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Ahvram
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#95 - 2013-06-07 16:31:50 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
blood spine wrote:
The jump animation is actually quite excellent keep the flow of the game as you jump. I will admit that it was quite annoying at first but after the "OMG CHANG DONT LIKE CHANGE" wore off I noticed how it kept the game going instead of the horrible immersion breaker of a black screen and loading bar. Its the same with the Wormhole transition


Thing is those of us with good computers didn't even see a load bar. Just that black blip changing to a new zone....one black blip, like a flicker.

It now is at least 3 black blips (where the animations begin) and takes even longer to get through a gate...all for eye candy, not function.

Function before form is a basic build consideration. If the animation had a purpose, fine. This doesn't even qualify for that as it doesn't even flow with it's purpose. If you are at the rear of the gate by 10 clicks, it's perfect. Warp to 0, the animation shoots you to the rear of the gate (leap frog effect) and that's not kewl. It's disjointed and off.



Exactly. People say this is faster but it isn't, I would hit a gate and insta load. bar was instant. takes longer to move now.

Even if its 3 seconds longer that's 3 seconds X how many accounts x how many jumps a day.

Lets do some rough math. Lets say 50k players make 1 jump a day @ 3 extra seconds per jump. That's is a total of 41.66 hours a day of extra time needed to travel total across those 50k accounts. This may sound moot but when your a accountant cruching numbers small gain time sinks like these turn into huge numbers. More time sinks = More money
Gorgoth24
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2013-06-07 17:42:05 UTC
I agree. Keep jumping animation. And introduce docking/undocking animation.

Loving the new animations, CCP
Maybelater Headache
Doomheim
#97 - 2013-06-07 17:58:28 UTC
CCP should do the next step and morph the game into an looped anime flic (or ponies)
Khira Kitamatsu
#98 - 2013-06-07 18:11:22 UTC
I think some of you would rather CCP would revert to these types of graphics.

Maybe you'd prefer these graphics.

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Drunken Stooge Manson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#99 - 2013-06-07 19:12:42 UTC
Their should be an option to disable.

All the new effect lovers should go on a 50-75 jump roam through 0.0 and report back about how much they love it.
Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#100 - 2013-06-07 20:03:36 UTC


if it really caused motion sickness for a 2 second jump animation

then the morons would be whining for ccp to remove all movement from eve...

warping causing motion sickness
undocking causing motion sickness
mining causing motion sickness
orbiting causing motion sickness


man what a bunch of mongoloids... You'd think the only games they have ever played in their life are 2d facebook games...


go back to Zynga I hear 2d don't cause motion sickness...

cause any 3d game with movement will make you sick


and the whining is giving me motion sickness


lulz