EVE General Discussion

How isnt it

You cannot comprehend that some people play for ingame goals, in a play pretend universe, and other play only to make people mad IRL.

The latter being the vast community of gankers and scammers. This has nothing to do with ingame rules.


So, is a game a social platform to behave like a sociopath, and seek RL satisfaction, making some random joe mad?


Also, getting rid of gankbears and scammers means, making their trade so unpalatable to them so that they choose a different activity in New Eden.

I think you could do both - in theory... Get rid of scammers and get rid of gankers - to a certain degree.

The ultimate factor is time. And the second variable is manpower. The prerequisites are charisma, cunning, some intelligence & a truckload of coffee. Not to speak of lots of determination.

But - over years - if you had all that, in theory, you could build a huge Alliance with the goal to "police" areas known as typical ganker hotspots. You could spend even more time trying to explain to some freighter pilots, why their 35B load freighter was attacked and shot down. People would learn to trust you. And there you go - at the end of the next decade of EVE you'd probably be well-respected & giving speeches at the Alliance podiums each year.

The same goes for scammers. You could - with the same requirements as above - build a huge contracting service that would be policed by you and other avid anti-scammers. Kind of a third party service. It could even include a "double ISK back" lottery. ;)

You could pretty much reach any point with your capsuleer you want. The only question - aside from the necessary talents - is, do you want to make the investment this requires? It would probably eat a big chunk out of your private life.

But whining at the status quo is not something that helps in EVE or RL. At least not in my experience.
No offense meant... It is just: If you want to reach a goal, it is usually 15% genius and 80% tenacity and 5% sheer luck. ;)

It's an online social experience by gaming so called MMORPG, see it like this and only this and your gaming experience will be much better.
It's a game, play it and let no one tell you what your goals are or how you should play it.
If you play with other people it's like all community activities, you have to follow some rules and adapt to the environment.

Hey, this applies also in RL !!! THat sucks right? -well asteroids or mario cart doesn't require you to play with others, you can do it YOUR way all down the road, just do it.

Off for the week-end, don't bother responding, I'll dig this thread up in a couple days so we can continue to unconsciously use different definitions for words and not communicate at all.

There IS no tacit agreement for that in EVE. If there was, I'd shred it, eat the shreds, crap the shreds into an industrial waste dispenser, take the remains of that and blast it apart with a Cylon--er, Nemesis.

Some of us enjoy being dicks. I know I do. I also enjoy helping the random newbies.



A true sandbox has the people that build everything in the sandbox, and the people that knock everything down in the sandbox. You can't claim to have a true sandbox without both.

Of course I can. For instance, you're in the latter category as demonstrated by your willingness to ruin the real lives of people.

No, those sit in the former category, since the losses and wins that they create all happen in-game.

Depends on the design and the rules. The last part can never really be controlled for, though, since there are always sore losers who can't abide by the rules of the game or who can't distinguish the edges of the magic circle.

People who refuse to accept rugby is a full contact sport are going to have a bad time and always lose. How does that even make sense?

EVE is an arena where players are free to set up their own rules of in-game social interaction. Personally, I never have to deal with scamming, griefing or ganking, because the group that I'm in has set rules against that kind of behaviour and enforces them.

Those last 3 words are the key factor that you're desperately trying to dance around. Not everyone is as you describe, but they can be if they like. Their freedom to try and be a jerk is exactly balanced by your freedom to try and stop them.

Join together with like minded people. Claims some space. Enforce the rules that suit you. That's the whole point of the game.

Your quest to try and whine CCP into doing it for you because it mortally offends you to see other people enjoying themselves in ways you don't approve of is eternally doomed to failure. You're not going to get success handed to you by fiat. Accept it, deal with it and form a new plan.

You're lazy, cowardly and ineffectual. That's why you're unhappy. Try being brave, useful and working towards your goal in game if you want some results other than contempt.

This is my main...

Everything I do to people is on this account. Your posting from an NPC character.... who is avoiding consequences?

OP EVE is not for you.

Also thinking "I cant gank them because they're good at ganking" is why you're terrible, or the consequence of you bring terrible, im not sure.

One thing is sure, you're terrible.