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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#1 - 2013-06-07 11:35:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Himnos Altar
So I'm a Wspacer, hey, hello, and had an interesting experience in K-space today.

after a surplus of cash lately, I decided to upgrade a trial account whose time had run out years ago but I'd never done anything with in the 4 years since. So basically all the positions in the Wspace are filled by my main/main alt, and don't need anything YET, but there's a few skills I could do.

So I Plexed the character, flew her out to a rookie system to get skills and incidentally had an argument with a few Local Users that really drove home to me the difference between K-spacers and me. Or just me and others in the community. They were bragging about pimped out ships with not really great fits that they had that they'd never fly. a Rattler with at LEAST 2-3B of fitting. Another K-Spacer had a Navy Mega and was flying around with it.....but couldn't use the guns yet. I was kind of surprised when he accepted my duel request (because Ackbar). If only that character had more than a Velator to his name in the Region. or if I had had a group of Tornadoes in the area. Of course, if I was sitting in the docking radius with a Faction tank I wouldn't worry about accepting a duel request from a Velator, even if I was so stupid I didn't have guns fitted (again, not sure if trolling or really that stupid)

I don't know about you but I tend to focus my ISK, and not buy crap I don't need. I get the ships for running sites, a PVP ship or two, a gas runner, and a barge for the slow times in the Wspace. If I don't need something, I don't buy it. I've been trying to clean up my Assets for the last........since '05, but it hasn't worked out so well. I just don't understand why someone would buy a super bling ship that they never intended to UNDOCK.

Yeah, I've got Zephyrs and Echelons, and Gnoses, oh my! But they're gifts that I'm hoarding because CCP thinks I'm a special snowflake (shut up)!

My ships have a purpose, I've accepted that they're all pre-blown up even while the ones I'm not using are in my tower, and if I eventually shut down the force field (and not because I forgot fuel) and bring everything out it's a refreshing surprise. I just cannot understand the hibears and their spinny, shiny bling ships. I can understand the null/low/Chribbabears with their giant, super bling ships that never dock that they farm sites/mine/farm kills/die in.

But that's the beauty of EVE. We all have different tastes, and we can all legitimately call each other stupid pubbies.


And all be completely right.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2013-06-07 11:37:12 UTC
Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum,
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
A man is born, he's a man of means.
Then along come two, they got nothing but their jeans.

But they got, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.

Everybody's got a special kind of story
Everybody finds a way to shine,
It don't matter that you got not alot
So what,
They'll have theirs, and you'll have yours, and I'll have mine.
And together we'll be fine....

Because it takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.
Yes it does.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#3 - 2013-06-07 11:38:44 UTC
tl;dr:

Himnos Altar wrote:

But that's the beauty of EVELife, the universe and everything. We all have different tastes.




I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#4 - 2013-06-07 11:49:08 UTC
Stoic Scrouge in the lands of the lounge lizard hedonists... Let em play with their fancy stuff.

Now to something completely different: Was there ever a sequel to Leather Goddesses of Phobos? ;)

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x
stoicfaux
#5 - 2013-06-07 11:52:46 UTC
So... the OP is space-poor compared to high-sec twits even after all his hard work, meta-gaming, and risk taking in w-space?

Or... PLEX for isk lets (rich) stupid players play Eve stupidly?

Or... OP couldn't be bothered to (or couldn't afford to) buy a PvP ship locally and settle the argument via a duel?

Or... OP is over-generalizing based on his experiences with a few people he happened to meet in the rookie systems, the solution to which is to get out of w-space with his main and socialize more with the rest of the galaxy instead of hiding in his hermit wormhole cave in the boonies?

Or.... posting in a stealth high-sec is too rich and high-sec income needs to be nerfed thread?

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#6 - 2013-06-07 11:55:46 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
So... the OP is space-poor compared to high-sec twits even after all his hard work, meta-gaming, and risk taking in w-space?

Or... PLEX for isk lets (rich) stupid players play Eve stupidly?

Or... OP couldn't be bothered to (or couldn't afford to) buy a PvP ship locally and settle the argument via a duel?

Or... OP is over-generalizing based on his experiences with a few people he happened to meet in the rookie systems, the solution to which is to get out of w-space with his main and socialize more with the rest of the galaxy instead of hiding in his hermit wormhole cave in the boonies?

Or.... posting in a stealth high-sec is too rich and high-sec income needs to be nerfed thread?


Don't get out much, the barely out of trial account didn't have much SP/ISK, and no, I don't get out much, but when I do I tend not to spend much time in hi sec if I can help it.

:P
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7 - 2013-06-07 11:56:19 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
So... the OP is space-poor compared to high-sec twits even after all his hard work, meta-gaming, and risk taking in w-space?

Or... PLEX for isk lets (rich) stupid players play Eve stupidly?

Or... OP couldn't be bothered to (or couldn't afford to) buy a PvP ship locally and settle the argument via a duel?

Or... OP is over-generalizing based on his experiences with a few people he happened to meet in the rookie systems, the solution to which is to get out of w-space with his main and socialize more with the rest of the galaxy instead of hiding in his hermit wormhole cave in the boonies?

Or.... posting in a stealth high-sec is too rich and high-sec income needs to be nerfed thread?


None of the above.

You clearly havent read his post.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#8 - 2013-06-07 12:03:25 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
So... the OP is space-poor compared to high-sec twits even after all his hard work, meta-gaming, and risk taking in w-space?

Or... PLEX for isk lets (rich) stupid players play Eve stupidly?

Or... OP couldn't be bothered to (or couldn't afford to) buy a PvP ship locally and settle the argument via a duel?

Or... OP is over-generalizing based on his experiences with a few people he happened to meet in the rookie systems, the solution to which is to get out of w-space with his main and socialize more with the rest of the galaxy instead of hiding in his hermit wormhole cave in the boonies?

Or.... posting in a stealth high-sec is too rich and high-sec income needs to be nerfed thread?


This is actually a super-stealth "Nerf Jove" thread.
Signal11th
#9 - 2013-06-07 12:11:28 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum,
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
A man is born, he's a man of means.
Then along come two, they got nothing but their jeans.

But they got, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.

Everybody's got a special kind of story
Everybody finds a way to shine,
It don't matter that you got not alot
So what,
They'll have theirs, and you'll have yours, and I'll have mine.
And together we'll be fine....

Because it takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.
Yes it does.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.



What you talkin bout Willis!

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Pepper Solette
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-06-07 12:31:05 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum,
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
A man is born, he's a man of means.
Then along come two, they got nothing but their jeans.

But they got, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.

Everybody's got a special kind of story
Everybody finds a way to shine,
It don't matter that you got not alot
So what,
They'll have theirs, and you'll have yours, and I'll have mine.
And together we'll be fine....

Because it takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.
Yes it does.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.



Have you been drinking the spinal fluid of those orphans again? I told you, you have to clean them first.

** Miko Sunji:  "There is no better way to find out if you can swim, than swimming for your life."**
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#11 - 2013-06-07 12:38:28 UTC
Pepper Solette wrote:


Have you been drinking the spinal fluid of those orphans again? I told you, you have to clean them first.




But they're so sweeeeet

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#12 - 2013-06-07 12:44:13 UTC
Himnos Altar wrote:
Another K-Spacer had a Navy Mega and was flying around with it.....but couldn't use the guns yet. I was kind of surprised when he accepted my duel request

Can you tell me who this was? You know what they say, a fool and his ISK is easily parted.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#13 - 2013-06-07 12:57:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Himnos Altar
ACE McFACE wrote:
Himnos Altar wrote:
Another K-Spacer had a Navy Mega and was flying around with it.....but couldn't use the guns yet. I was kind of surprised when he accepted my duel request

Can you tell me who this was? You know what they say, a fool and his ISK is easily parted.



Oko Fury in Couster

Xeritan had the Bling Bling Rattler. Also enounctered in Couster.

Note: Xeritan's Rattler had only 10 Federation Navy Ogres. Thus the trolling by m--Mittens.

Quote:
[ 2013.06.07 08:08:26 ] Xeritan > Xeritan's Rattlesnake changed a few things :-\\
[ 2013.06.07 08:09:09 ] The Mittani > you're going to get eaten alive by tacklers
[ 2013.06.07 08:09:12 ] The Mittani > you know this, yes?
[ 2013.06.07 08:09:18 ] Nautica Hawk > Internal Force Field Array I change this to t2
[ 2013.06.07 08:09:41 ] Orianna Okanata > why do you have a point?
[ 2013.06.07 08:09:48 ] Kira Torino > Tacklers... lolwut? That becomes a game of boredom in the rattlesnake.
["Bling Rattlesnake tackled? Batphone time!" "For a Rattlesnake? I'd hang up"]
...

[ 2013.06.07 08:11:21 ] Xeritan > well i have ECCM - Gravimetric II
[ 2013.06.07 08:11:23 ] Xeritan > i just dont have them fit right now
[ 2013.06.07 08:11:33 ] Xeritan > i use one if i'm not feeling safe for sure
...
[ 2013.06.07 08:12:53 ] BoodaBooda > 400M in invuls, dunno about the torps
[ 2013.06.07 08:13:03 ] DaBigRedBoat > that's 1-2B easy
[ 2013.06.07 08:13:09 ] Xeritan > indeed
[ 2013.06.07 08:13:15 ] Xeritan > expensive ship

....
[ 2013.06.07 08:14:23 ] The Mittani > then why would you even have it if you don't plan on flying it
[ 2013.06.07 08:14:35 ] Oko Fury > because its nice to have :D
[ 2013.06.07 08:14:37 ] Xeritan > can't reason with unreasonable people
[ 2013.06.07 08:14:46 ] Oko Fury > i have a machariel sitting in jita for no reason
[ 2013.06.07 08:14:46 ] Orianna Okanata > that's true
...
[ 2013.06.07 08:19:13 ] Xeritan > 55% to 78% shield resistances, 104 shield regen per second, 14662 total shields, 700 dps (drones + missiles)
[ 2013.06.07 08:19:18 ] Xeritan > sigh.
[ 2013.06.07 08:19:35 ] Oko Fury > the only point to using 2 toons on one account is to sell the toon 6 months later for 6 bil
[ 2013.06.07 08:19:38 ] Kira Torino > And it's still just a rattlesnake.
[ 2013.06.07 08:19:42 ] DariusIII > no, not really
[ 2013.06.07 08:19:45 ] Xeritan > err, 121 shield regen per second*
...
[ 2013.06.07 08:26:35 ] SirMolle > and btw, you're hiding behind CONCORD
[ 2013.06.07 08:26:38 ] Oko Fury > more fail troll :D
[ 2013.06.07 08:26:43 ] Oko Fury > am i?
[ 2013.06.07 08:26:43 ] Tahaka Darknes > привет народ
[ 2013.06.07 08:26:48 ] Oko Fury > seems like u are to me
[ 2013.06.07 08:26:50 ] SirMolle > eh
[ 2013.06.07 08:27:00 ] SirMolle > I'll undock
[ 2013.06.07 08:27:02 ] CCP Soundwave > come pop me
[ 2013.06.07 08:27:17 ] CCPSoundwave > please
[ 2013.06.07 08:27:21 ] Oko Fury > sorry mate i cant use the guns on this mega
[ 2013.06.07 08:27:29 ] The Mittani > then why are you even in the mega?
[ 2013.06.07 08:27:29 ] Oko Fury > Glave
[ 2013.06.07 08:27:37 ] Oko Fury > because i feel like it?




Confirming that these chat logs are NOT doctored and are 100% legit

And for the nullers in the audience, the reference to batphone is not necessarily caps, but of course just moar DPS
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-06-07 13:21:27 UTC
I have 2 really flashy ships and i'm a k spacer. A tengu and a sleipnir. Both have completely different roles. I use my sleip for exploration, and my tengu for missions (a weird twist huh?). Anyway, point being is that they're both incredibly flashy for one reason- they work. and they work very good.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#15 - 2013-06-07 13:22:34 UTC
Alexa Coates wrote:
I have 2 really flashy ships and i'm a k spacer. A tengu and a sleipnir. Both have completely different roles. I use my sleip for exploration, and my tengu for missions (a weird twist huh?). Anyway, point being is that they're both incredibly flashy for one reason- they work. and they work very good.



that doesn't really bug me, but these guys didn't intend to fly their flashy ships at all.
Ahvram
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-06-07 13:38:39 UTC
Himnos Altar wrote:
Alexa Coates wrote:
I have 2 really flashy ships and i'm a k spacer. A tengu and a sleipnir. Both have completely different roles. I use my sleip for exploration, and my tengu for missions (a weird twist huh?). Anyway, point being is that they're both incredibly flashy for one reason- they work. and they work very good.



that doesn't really bug me, but these guys didn't intend to fly their flashy ships at all.





You have to understand some EVE players are like "Car Guys" in real life. They buy things they rarely use just to know they own it and can talk about. Also there are players out there who do use there multi billion isk ships in High sec for Missioning, incursioning ect. Funny thing is to here you rant about a 3 billion isk rattler. Some of the people I know have single modules on there ship worth more than that.