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Sve'n Skywalker
Neocodex Uebermensch23
#1 - 2013-06-05 17:44:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Sve'n Skywalker
Switched to Suse Linux 12.3. Trying to play Eve since Sunday. Tried day and night. Got lots of errors. Main Fault was crushing when Eve tried to enter charakter choosement. So 3d problems. Installed new drivers, installed Suse again lots of times. Actuall I had python.dll errors. Now Ive installed crossover. It looks very serious. Que Sera. If it doesnt work I will switch back to windows.

Things Ive tried:

New graphic card (nvidia)
install wintricks 2005-2010 runtime
install playonlinux
install lots of linux stuff
reinstall suse 134 times since sunday

Warum vertragen wir uns nicht alle?

Wir könnten statt Low bis Large Scale PvP - einfach meditieren!!!

Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
#2 - 2013-06-05 18:08:54 UTC
Do you know what video driver you're using? Nvidia proprietary, nouveau, other? I'm not sure what SUSE uses by default. If you're not using the official Nvidia drivers, you should look into that.
Sve'n Skywalker
Neocodex Uebermensch23
#3 - 2013-06-05 18:16:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Sve'n Skywalker
Im using GT 610. Ive installed the Geforce 6xx Series drivers now. Befor that ive installed the latest Nvidia drivers and eve crushed when starting charakter menu.

Im downloading eve files by the 10 time yet. At beginning crossover has installed direct x files. seems very cool.

Warum vertragen wir uns nicht alle?

Wir könnten statt Low bis Large Scale PvP - einfach meditieren!!!

Frazier
Isaziwa Industrial Resource and Service
#4 - 2013-06-05 19:01:09 UTC
Are you using the nvidia drivers from Suse or directly from nvidia? If from Suse then try the ones from nvidias official homepage.
You will need to install the linux-headers package of your current kernel and the building tools you distro offers (gcc, automake ...) The driver setup will tell you if something is missing.

Also make sure you uninstall any other conflicting drivers previously. Like nouveau or the Suse nvidia drivers.
And clean up your wine installs. To minimize errors only install one wine version on your system. The best way is to build the recent version from source. You don't need winetricks runtimes with that anymore. (all above 1.5.26 afaik)
Sve'n Skywalker
Neocodex Uebermensch23
#5 - 2013-06-05 19:45:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Sve'n Skywalker
still python is missin. I try to download this whole suse auto update stuff now

****. pos needs fuel lol

Warum vertragen wir uns nicht alle?

Wir könnten statt Low bis Large Scale PvP - einfach meditieren!!!

Sve'n Skywalker
Neocodex Uebermensch23
#6 - 2013-06-06 06:09:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Sve'n Skywalker
still awake.. .. ... ..

Wasnt able to create bootable windows with linux ...

When eve is installed again, and python is still missing I will copy a python into the eve directory. I ve red about it. Maybe it works. ---- using wine now


Ps: Drivers from Nvidia page are called : the hard way Pirate


Sind sie zu stark bist du zu schwach

Warum vertragen wir uns nicht alle?

Wir könnten statt Low bis Large Scale PvP - einfach meditieren!!!

Frazier
Isaziwa Industrial Resource and Service
#7 - 2013-06-06 07:48:23 UTC
Which wine version are you running right now?

Asuming you have a version >= 1.5.26

Please try a new clean WINEPREFIX.

export WINEPREFIX=$HOME/mynewprefix
winecfg

... let it install gecko an what else it wants. The go to the libaries section, search for d3d11 and set it to "disabled".
Do not run winetricks or anything else.
If you have already a EVE setup in another prefix (the default is $HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/CCP/EVE) copy or symlink it to your new prefix. So for example:

cd
cd mynewprefix/drive_c/Program\ Files
ln -s $HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/CCP CCP

... will create a Symlink. Then open that EVE folder ("mynewprefix/drive_c/Program\ Files/CCP/EVE") and remove all *.patch and *.download files in it. Then go into the sub directory Launcher/cache and clear all files therein.

After that try to run EVE directly using bin/Exefile.exe:

export WINEPREFIX=$HOME/mynewprefix
cd $WINEPREFIX/drive_c/Program\ Files/CCP/EVE/bin
wine ./Exefile.exe

Installing python onto wine will probably cause more trouble then it will solve.
Also note that you will not be able to use the EVE launcher properly without patching wine.
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Sve'n Skywalker
Neocodex Uebermensch23
#8 - 2013-06-07 02:39:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Sve'n Skywalker
actually direction: program\files <-- Is error, cant find the right one

/home/sven/.wine/program files x86 doesnt work

Warum vertragen wir uns nicht alle?

Wir könnten statt Low bis Large Scale PvP - einfach meditieren!!!

Sve'n Skywalker
Neocodex Uebermensch23
#9 - 2013-06-07 05:06:26 UTC
well, nothing works, neither eve nor windows.

running suse 12.3 (60euro).

Im trying to install newer version of wine.

Warum vertragen wir uns nicht alle?

Wir könnten statt Low bis Large Scale PvP - einfach meditieren!!!

Frazier
Isaziwa Industrial Resource and Service
#10 - 2013-06-07 07:46:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Frazier
Sve'n Skywalker wrote:
well, nothing works, neither eve nor windows.

running suse 12.3 (60euro).

Im trying to install newer version of wine.


Are you dual-booting Windows? And the Windows install of EVE has the same issues?
I don't know what exactly you are doing on your machine, but "nothing works, neither eve nor windows" sounds strange to me. Wine will not provide you a "Windows" system, it only allows you to run single Windows applications within Linux.
Regardless, do not try to use system files of a Windows installation on you system for wine or something like that. Keep both systems cleanly separated. Wine does not need Windows. But I may misinterpreted something you wrote here.

When you say you are installing wine, what method are you using? Compiling from source or binary packages?

I can't say much about Suse specific things here. The last version I used was Suse 7. I'm absolutely unfamiliar with the packages they are providing these days.

Another important question: What architecture are you using, 32bit or 64bit? If you are using 64bit (amd64) make sure the wine version you are installing is 32 bit compatible. You will need the wine i386 version and the necessary i386 libaries. A wine 64 version will not rune EVE.

Edit:
Also please tell us what the current error is or why exactly EVE won't run in you current situation.
Katrina Bekers
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2013-06-07 08:46:21 UTC
Sve'n Skywalker wrote:
actually direction: program\files <-- Is error, cant find the right one

/home/sven/.wine/program files x86 doesnt work


If you have space in the filename or path, you must surround the entire path with double quotes.

C:/home/user/.wine/program files/CCP/EVE/bin/ExeFile.exe ==> "program not found"

"C:/home/user/.wine/program files/CCP/EVE/bin/ExeFile.exe" ==> works

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Chks
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-07 11:42:04 UTC
I know this is a bit unhelpful but I started using SuSE also a few years back, I liked it in general but never managed to get Eve to run properly. I am sure someone with more knowledge could do it easily but the advantage of a distro like Ubuntu is that when I get a problem I just google the hell out of it and usually find a solution.

:p

Chks
Sve'n Skywalker
Neocodex Uebermensch23
#13 - 2013-06-07 20:55:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Sve'n Skywalker
I couldnt manage the binaries. Im not able to run latest versions. Im running on 1.5.23.

Maybe ive found the fault. Wine asks me at startup for librarydirection. It looks like I allways gave wrong direction.

The actuall problem is a python.dll error. It appears in every situation: several different nvidia installations and suse reinstalls.

How I said, eve started on the Geforce 8xxx driver installation. On 6xxx he misses python.dll.Im using GT 610.

Have to wait, Installer is on 20%. Is there another option to test if it works?

Add: I pretend Im running the best drivers atm

Add2: I wish I could run windows. Just running Suse. Even shop assistant failed in creating windows cd. I ve spent 5 more euro.

Warum vertragen wir uns nicht alle?

Wir könnten statt Low bis Large Scale PvP - einfach meditieren!!!

Sve'n Skywalker
Neocodex Uebermensch23
#14 - 2013-06-07 22:12:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Sve'n Skywalker
still python.dll missing

wine is unchanged

Warum vertragen wir uns nicht alle?

Wir könnten statt Low bis Large Scale PvP - einfach meditieren!!!

Sve'n Skywalker
Neocodex Uebermensch23
#15 - 2013-06-07 22:51:01 UTC
I was pretending PlayonLinux is a library. But it is an executable.

Im awake to long and working on this stuff all the week, maybe it excuses my eve is deletet again. But ive found offline installer.

PlayonLinux helps installing all wine versions including latest developer version.

yehaa. It must work now

Warum vertragen wir uns nicht alle?

Wir könnten statt Low bis Large Scale PvP - einfach meditieren!!!

Sve'n Skywalker
Neocodex Uebermensch23
#16 - 2013-06-08 00:38:40 UTC
IT WORKS !! MUHAAAHAA

--> original nvidia drivers, from resporatory
--> run PlayonLinux

Thank you guys

Warum vertragen wir uns nicht alle?

Wir könnten statt Low bis Large Scale PvP - einfach meditieren!!!

Frazier
Isaziwa Industrial Resource and Service
#17 - 2013-06-09 11:23:42 UTC
Great, fly safe.