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Rat salvaging

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Zent
Centers for Intergalactic Mercantile Acquisition
#1 - 2013-06-06 14:34:39 UTC
Just curious if you destroy a rat and someone else comes in and salvages it why is it not considered stealing??? the wreck has value and some are very valuable I understand looting it is but salvaging it should have the same consequences !!
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#2 - 2013-06-06 16:26:56 UTC
Because you don't own the salvage till you salvage it. Only the loot.
ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#3 - 2013-06-06 21:01:15 UTC
Topic moved to General Discussion.

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Mc Scam
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-06 21:48:08 UTC
Wrecks are considered garbage, free for everyone to pick up, otherwise space would end up polluted.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#5 - 2013-06-06 21:54:21 UTC
Wrecks should be changed to the scatter mechanics. When the ship pops, a bunch of pieces fly off with the salvage and modules and if you don't catch them in time they're gone.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
UKBigWolf
#6 - 2013-06-06 22:10:54 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Wrecks should be changed to the scatter mechanics. When the ship pops, a bunch of pieces fly off with the salvage and modules and if you don't catch them in time they're gone.


We going to have a new mini-game to determine the value of the wreckage?
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#7 - 2013-06-06 22:31:42 UTC
UKBigWolf wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Wrecks should be changed to the scatter mechanics. When the ship pops, a bunch of pieces fly off with the salvage and modules and if you don't catch them in time they're gone.


We going to have a new mini-game to determine the value of the wreckage?

Yes! Let's call it "Sub System Targeting".

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Ranzabar
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-06-06 23:29:58 UTC
I think it has something to do with Maritime law and wreck salvage. I dunno.

Abide
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#9 - 2013-06-06 23:32:30 UTC
The loot is property of the owner, the salvage is property of everyone.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Katsu Vohlakari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-06-07 00:16:19 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Wrecks should be changed to the scatter mechanics. When the ship pops, a bunch of pieces fly off with the salvage and modules and if you don't catch them in time they're gone.


That'd be ridiculous. Cleaning up after mission runners would take ages and the Noctis would become worthless.
Capt Tenguru10
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-06-07 01:21:21 UTC
Confirming loot spew on salvage is awesome idea.

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Lady Areola Fappington
#12 - 2013-06-07 01:31:18 UTC
EVE salvage is loosely based on current maritime salvage laws, which boil down to "derelict vessels belong to the person who salvages them."

In the Real World, vessel salvage goes through maritime courts ande all that jazz. In EVE, our court system involves ship guns.


Fun anecdote time, my younger brother owns a boat. Ran out of fuel off of florida, called for a tow. The guy who responded was a professional salvager, and got my brother to say the right things, while being recorded. The second my brother stepped off the boat, it became a derelict vessel in danger of sinking, and the salver had a lien on the boat by the time they got to shore. Ended up costing my bro more than the boat was worth to recover.

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Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-06-07 02:16:09 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Wrecks should be changed to the scatter mechanics. When the ship pops, a bunch of pieces fly off with the salvage and modules and if you don't catch them in time they're gone.



That would be a great game from 60k ;p

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Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-06-07 03:17:52 UTC
Cry
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#15 - 2013-06-07 03:24:05 UTC
There is no good reason. If you shoot it, you get concorded.

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are serious business sir.

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Stonecrusher Mortlock
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-06-07 19:29:24 UTC
if the wreck belongs to any one why is it a crime to tractor beam a wreck?
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-06-07 19:30:49 UTC
ISD Tyrozan wrote:
Topic moved to General Discussion.


Oh my god this is the first time I've ever seen this happen what

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#18 - 2013-06-07 19:31:35 UTC
Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote:
if the wreck belongs to any one why is it a crime to tractor beam a wreck?

Because it contains a cargo can that is owned by someone.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#19 - 2013-06-07 19:33:02 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
EVE salvage is loosely based on current maritime salvage laws, which boil down to "derelict vessels belong to the person who salvages them."

In the Real World, vessel salvage goes through maritime courts ande all that jazz. In EVE, our court system involves ship guns.


Fun anecdote time, my younger brother owns a boat. Ran out of fuel off of florida, called for a tow. The guy who responded was a professional salvager, and got my brother to say the right things, while being recorded. The second my brother stepped off the boat, it became a derelict vessel in danger of sinking, and the salver had a lien on the boat by the time they got to shore. Ended up costing my bro more than the boat was worth to recover.


Sounds like a Hisec pirate to me.

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RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-06-07 20:07:58 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
EVE salvage is loosely based on current maritime salvage laws, which boil down to "derelict vessels belong to the person who salvages them."

In the Real World, vessel salvage goes through maritime courts ande all that jazz. In EVE, our court system involves ship guns.


Fun anecdote time, my younger brother owns a boat. Ran out of fuel off of florida, called for a tow. The guy who responded was a professional salvager, and got my brother to say the right things, while being recorded. The second my brother stepped off the boat, it became a derelict vessel in danger of sinking, and the salver had a lien on the boat by the time they got to shore. Ended up costing my bro more than the boat was worth to recover.



Should have called SEATOW I have their # if you like. I had my boat towed 2 years ago by them great service they even work in the Keys.

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