EVE General Discussion

Mainstream? EVE? Get real..... .seriously.

Do some research and see how far the rabbit hole goes. It's not pretty.



1) The role of a representative is not limited to interactions, even though it is a major part of it. They need to collaborate and determine long term plans to engage the community, how to handle problems, and how to bring grievances up. The employee in question has a history of pushing for more PvE and a leash being placed on the :grimdark: of Eve. With this bias, the person could push more of her agenda through players and brush aside the others.
2) I did not use the term preaching, you are putting words in my mouth to discredit me despite the fact it is demonstrably false. It is the frequency of which it happened. If someone has the image link of her posts and ramblings against CCP/Eve, feel free to pm them to Kobol.
3) I do not think you understand the difference between a personal attack and stating facts that are personal. She may be capable of running A community, but there are different types of communities. This particular one is not happy with her. Additionally, you are using a number fallacy. "Likes" are not an indicator of quality work when applied to a specific situation.
4) That is not what you said before. You said we can not WANT to know, as in we don't have the right to want to know. We do. Again, we don't care about her resume. We want to know why they hired someone who has a horrible repertoire with the community.
5) N/A
6) You are welcome.
7) I do this for a living.

Her past actions, as anyone's, does relate to the job. I would not hire someone to my company as a face to the customers when they have long been an outspoken person against the product until their time of hiring. It is simply bad PR. Additionally, bias would be a concern unless more resources were allocated to monitor them to prevent biased action. What do you think a resume is for? Or a criminal background check? Or ANY background check for that matter before being hired?



You must learn to infer based on the evidence available to you. Not all conclusions in history were met because the path was direct. While it is true we do not know her qualifications, we can infer based on the evidence available, including disposition to the game, attitude to the player base, conduct on social media post event, already evidenced poor PR ability, and a number of other factors. This history alone would ensure that I would not hire such a person, especially if the community of my product is very passionate and outspoken of said product.

Additionally, CCP has learned a lot about community relations and damage control. So, why hire someone they knew would cause so many problems? One can infer that her controversy would, as a DUST rep, would likely attract people.

It is not personal attacking, it is critical thinking based on the evidence at hand.

The most funny part is that it seems people don't think CCP will give her some guide line along with the paycheck... Do you guys really think she will trash talk the game as a community manager?

It's pretty obvious they are getting her because they know she can handle community management job as proved by her channel. They will then give her guideline to follow to use her skill to further the company. They are not hiring her for her opinion but for what she can do. They are thinking as a buisness instead of a bunch of irritated fanboy like the forum are right now.

i did but i couldnt find anything, sorry :-(

They appear to have been deleted along with her Twitter posts. Someone can eve mail you links to saved copies if they are so inclined. I saw a lot floating around yesterday.

They are basicly basing thier whole point on "A person can never change his/her opinion over something so she will trash talk eve/dust after being hired.".

Player cahnge thier mind about this game on a daily basis but she can't. She's some kind of hard programmed robot with a locked mind algoritm.

The big lie here is that she trashed EVE the game. I don't follow her well enough to be able to say she never criticized the game (and really who hasn't?), but those tweets didn't say that.

She didn't hate the game, she hated certain playahs.

And from the behavior exhibited recently, I can't say I blame her. Am glad she got over it.

I would say it's pretty obvious why she was hired. If you've ever seen one of her youtube video's you probably think the same as me.

But then again, it's true that I very rarely understand what CCP is doing.

So it's possible they could look at any random application and think



You never know.

The keyword is subset. Not all people use the forums. While the anger can't be accurately measured across the whole of Eve based on forum goers, you COULD do a random sample of a few thousand people but...that's another story and me getting researchy.


How is that fact? Where are the numbers? You and I both don't have the evidence to claim fact about anything outside of what is available to us and what can be realistically inferred. The new employees history being questions? Sure, evidence is available. Saying MOST people don't have a problem with her is fact? We need numbers. And again, this isn't about her ability to manage a community (for the fifth time). This is about her disposition towards the game and wanting to know why someone so against the :grimdark: of Eve was hired. I honestly don't care about her resume.




No, it is not irrelevant as it is a possible explanation for her hiring. The anti-questioning and pro-obedience rhetoric from people on these forums is getting absurd.

"Question nothing. You don't need to know. Sit down and play or leave. Obey."